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Post by trappnman on Oct 14, 2016 7:11:25 GMT -6
Nice to get out there again. Wolf fangs working out well- only one I had budge after driving it in, I know would pull up since I went in a few inches and hit a hole- I could pull it up so it was still in, but only by a few inches so dug it out and started over. Here are some pictures to get your juices flowing- I meant to post this a while ago- shows you why they are called pocket gophers- both outside pockets stuffed with grass and some coyotes
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Post by trappnman on Oct 14, 2016 17:45:42 GMT -6
lol- someone stole the skull in the 2nd pic today. Dang- getting harder to find!
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Post by trappnman on Oct 14, 2016 17:47:43 GMT -6
that last pic, is something I run into all the time- the attraction, a compost pile- is right behind me. The green is a tractor path.
and plowed fields.
pile up some dirt, and make it work.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Oct 15, 2016 4:51:40 GMT -6
Tman I know in the past the entire "spot" concept was a long and worn out topic , yet are these locations the "spot" on your farms or "edge" and travel way sets?
I Know hard to see by your pictures but what makes 1,2,3,4 and pic 6 the spots?
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Post by trappnman on Oct 15, 2016 5:47:40 GMT -6
what they are next to- and that is something I'm not going to post.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Oct 15, 2016 6:11:16 GMT -6
Fair enough.
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Post by trappnman on Oct 15, 2016 6:18:21 GMT -6
All have a reason for being there besides random picks-
I'll surely share the type- dead pile, compost shed, compost pile, manure pile, terraces
but been burned posting pics so keep that to minimum.
that last pic, as I said, is right next to the dead pile, which is right behind the barn.
My 2 thoughts before setting a trap-
1) is there a reason for the coyote to be here?
2) if so, is there a reason to stall out?
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Oct 15, 2016 6:24:42 GMT -6
Ok coyote picture 1 and 4 what do you have in these areas to draw them ? Also the one with the skull I think it is? What is the main attractant there as well?
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Post by trappnman on Oct 15, 2016 6:27:00 GMT -6
the beauty of thinking "set on the spot" is that its multifaceted-
1) the goal, the ideal spot- is at or near a large enough attraction to attract multiple groups on a regular basis.
Sadly, the minority of my locations.
2) next, would be to have an attraction that is big enough to have the local coyotes use it on a regular basis.
the majority of my locations
3) to have an attraction that draws attention frequently if not regular use from locals
some of mine as well.
add to all the above: "and set traps at the stall out points (or, at the place I believe, based on my experience, they would feel the most at ease)"
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Oct 15, 2016 6:33:31 GMT -6
So picture 4 what is making that a stall out spot? What are we not seeing there? Rolling hill looks to be along side some standing corn?
Picture one tractor lane between fresh plowed fields what are we not seeing that makes that the stallout location or what is in that area of plowed ground they all want to come and see? Or is this trail leading to a dead pile? If so how far away is such pile?
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Post by trappnman on Oct 15, 2016 6:52:44 GMT -6
what you mean is- what are the attractions?
#4- dead cows in woods, free range chickens at farm
#1- read a previous post
skull- yes, that is a skull, I use them a lot. live cows and next to where dead calfs go
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Post by flathead40 on Oct 15, 2016 9:10:10 GMT -6
I asked you once if terrain can be the attractor. I wonder if terrain can create the stall out area? Without a cover change. An example, good road,(like the pic) good sign, would a swale or corner cause a stall out? I keep thinking a nice swale in the road would make them feel safer than the rest. However I would normally set the nobs of the road because for some reason I tend to like knobs, or the high spot.
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Post by trappnman on Oct 15, 2016 12:42:13 GMT -6
that long road- comes from a woodlot and some ravines below- and a big dairy and dead pile where you can see top of silo
At this location, there is that terrace- maybe 10-12 feet wide and very long, very brushy between two plowed fields. Also a wide, turn around spot in round- also, road at its only level spot-
and now there are 3 carcasses as well in terrace
yes, most definitely a swale or CRP would have potential ot be a stall out spot-
keep this is mind-
here, #1 food for all seasons- voles.
grass = voles
coyotes mouse around, and they putter when doing so-
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Post by bogio on Oct 15, 2016 20:35:02 GMT -6
The photos give the appearance of traveling coyotes rather than hunting coyotes. Where are the sets in relation to the "spot"/attraction?
Are they part of the "spot" or separate from it?
Are they marketable at this point?
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Post by trappnman on Oct 16, 2016 6:38:51 GMT -6
they give that appearance, because I'm standing by the attraction more or less.
how far away depends on the coyotes, and to a degree where I can set
ones I got yesterday were all pups, and they looked nice- very typical for this time a year- I have no problem selling them every year- and they just get better day by day.
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Post by trappnman on Oct 16, 2016 7:02:25 GMT -6
it seems to be a misconception that setting where coyotes walk, is somehow not setting in stallout areas.
if you have a mile long field road- chances are there is a stall out spot on it, or along it. (assuming its in coyote country)
the whole point as I see it on setting "stall out points" is he feels comfortable enough, to STOP walking- whether for a couple of minutes or an hour.
that all portions of roads, lanes, fields etc are NOT the same in mindset, even though you see the same tracks go by
I've described a couple of times what makes that long road a stall out area- in fact, its a textbook situation. Maybe I'll make a video of the whole area today- depends on how I feel when I'm there
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Post by trappnman on Oct 16, 2016 19:12:26 GMT -6
here is that set up. Its a pretty reliable location for me- in 10-12 years, I take 3-5 from this spot in a week or so. I think some take a stall out spot to mean hes going to curl up and go to sleep- but that's not it at all- he stops because he is at ease, and there is something there- as I said in video, something for him to dick around with, like any canine. click it heres one today with a skull- Came across this this morning- don't see that everyday
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Post by trappnman on Oct 16, 2016 19:14:47 GMT -6
video doesn't seem to be working- I'll check it tomorrow
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Post by trappnman on Oct 17, 2016 6:40:36 GMT -6
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Post by wihawk76 on Oct 17, 2016 12:00:32 GMT -6
Tman - Was able to watch the first video you had posted, not the second.
On the video - I am assuming you have traps at the terrace? Do you also have traps down by the woodlot, or the waterway?
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