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Post by blackhammer on Oct 4, 2015 20:29:59 GMT -6
To make it simple how many miles between set locations here in the midwest? I know situations differ but a ballpark guess.
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Post by RdFx on Oct 4, 2015 21:18:42 GMT -6
Depends on the areas and what i call xcing areas used by differant yote familys. Usually comes out to approximately 5-7 miles....
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Post by braveheart on Oct 5, 2015 3:53:18 GMT -6
I have always thought 5 miles but some place I think it might be less.
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Post by TRay on Oct 5, 2015 10:39:26 GMT -6
I really don't think that home ranges are significant in the fall. Family groups are splitting up, corn is being harvested moving them around, and coyotes are not really territorial this time of year. If I have good locations that I feel coyotes will keep moving into I may have several set locations within a mile, but in other spots it may be 10-15 miles.
Another thing in my area is hunting pressure will move coyotes, many times I trap coyotes in grazed off barren areas with no cover or food but they have moved there to escape being harassed by hunters on daily basis.
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Post by RdFx on Oct 5, 2015 14:25:37 GMT -6
Here ins Wisconsin the deer hunting season changes things and about a week after it closes things calm down and yotes move back into areas. BUT ive see where they dont move becuase they will clean up guts overnite.... ive even seen a couple times where hunters i was with threw smokes on gut pile when done AND guts were gone next day... Sooo if deer is taken last day i set up approximately 30 feet away ( Wi has 25 foot exposed bait law for trapping ) and take yotes over nite in flat or urine post sets... I always have some yote traps and gear in my truck during deer season.
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Post by trappnman on Oct 6, 2015 7:47:18 GMT -6
I guess the question isn't so much home range, but more a question on how do you need to space locations, to not waste traps on the same coyotes, and to yet cover "all" the coyotes in your area.
And for me, it comes down to one thing- well, 2 really- how much habitat, and where are the attractions.
as I move west on my lines, the habitat diminishes greatly- through experience, I've found that (and let me make it clear I'm talking my area as I have little knowledge of other types of terrain) the obvious is true- that the les habitat, the less coyotes. So on my western loops, I find far more flat land, which means far more cropland, and less rough/pasture- and this means less coyotes. So on those loops, I often go miles, sometimes quite a few miles, between locations. I've tried several BIG attractions, huge dairies that have little to no habitat within viewing range (flat country, so I can see quite a ways) determining if the size of the attraction, could negate the lack of "close" coyotes- and that failed miserably.
but in my middle and eastern lines, the opposite is true- habitat is present almost everywhere- with set aside lands, with wooded hillsides and coulees, with cows in pastures, with streams and rivers etc- so the attractions are many along with a decent coyote population. Also whats present are blocking areas- areas of steep cliffs, deep coulees that divide- so you can have multiple farms with cattle, all relatively close miles ways but in reality cut off from each other.
So in those locations- while singular setups might well take most of the coyotes on a long term basis, in the short term, multiple locations need to be set up to take them in a short time frame.
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Post by blackhammer on Oct 6, 2015 7:53:13 GMT -6
I guess the question isn't so much home range, but more a question on how do you need to space locations, to not waste traps on the same coyotes, and to yet cover "all" the coyotes in your area. And for me, it comes down to one thing- well, 2 really- how much habitat, and where are the attractions. as I move west on my lines, the habitat diminishes greatly- through experience, I've found that (and let me make it clear I'm talking my area as I have little knowledge of other types of terrain) the obvious is true- that the les habitat, the less coyotes. So on my western loops, I find far more flat land, which means far more cropland, and less rough/pasture- and this means less coyotes. So on those loops, I often go miles, sometimes quite a few miles, between locations. I've tried several BIG attractions, huge dairies that have little to no habitat within viewing range (flat country, so I can see quite a ways) determining if the size of the attraction, could negate the lack of "close" coyotes- and that failed miserably. but in my middle and eastern lines, the opposite is true- habitat is present almost everywhere- with set aside lands, with wooded hillsides and coulees, with cows in pastures, with streams and rivers etc- so the attractions are many along with a decent coyote population. Also whats present are blocking areas- areas of steep cliffs, deep coulees that divide- so you can have multiple farms with cattle, all relatively close miles ways but in reality cut off from each other. So in those locations- while singular setups might well take most of the coyotes on a long term basis, in the short term, multiple locations need to be set up to take them in a short time frame. Thanks, that answers my general question.
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Post by trappnman on Oct 6, 2015 7:58:09 GMT -6
When are you going to start?
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Post by blackhammer on Oct 6, 2015 8:34:18 GMT -6
Might starting make sets Monday the 19th. Probably put a few sets I can see from my house a little earlier. Really tough to get motivated for my dryland coon line . Probably run more canine stuff than usual but still take too many coon I'm sure. You starting Monday?
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Post by trappnman on Oct 6, 2015 9:03:12 GMT -6
yes, on Monday- my first line contains very few coon or fox- last year on it, caught zero coon, and the 1st 3 fox I've caught on it in years, and in past had one fox ever in 6-7 years- all the same day, double on one farm, singleton on other- caught 5 fox all year, and had to release 3- oh well.....
I can't get excited about coon either-
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