Coyote snaring

[lureshy]

Just got done watching Gary Jepson's snaring video. He made a comment about having his largest catches of the year come from around Jan. 8 to the 19th (if I remember correctly) I only have about two years of experience coyote snaring but something did jump out at me about those dates and maybe why this is. Any comments? Tim

[lureshy]

MY first thought was that the dark moon phase for Jan. 2013 was at this time and snare locks and cable were harder to detect,but shortly after posting I realized I had a brain fart.The moon is obviously different in a given month from year to year. Any way, does anybody have a favorate lock and cable you use?

[trappincoyotes39]

Yes 5/64th 1x19 with a filed cam and stinger type kill spring it is almost bullet proof for coyote snaring. I have used much 1/16th 1x19 with good result to but you have to lay them out or choke them down not the springy entangelment found in some locations.

I can do alot with 5/64th sized cable by blending it in and keeping the loop outside of the main line of sight.

My best days on active bait stations where the nights it got below 10 degrees it seems they all new where to find a quick easy meal when things got really cold.

[lureshy]

TC, What do you mean by "filed" cam, and set up like this on the 5/64 1 by 19 can you get by without vertical entanglement? Tim

[trappincoyotes39]

Yes notice zero entanglement and no fight circle down and out/

A filed cam is done with a checkering file guys have been doing it for a few years not my invention by any means, but works very well. The teeth allow little to no backoff of the lock and the spring works with that lock very well to produce very good results. You either need little to no cover or hard firm entanglement, springy entaglement doesn't work as well.

[lureshy]

This looks like it will go along ways in solving my cable eating or twisting. Thanks

[maule]

TC39, when you get a moment, would you explain how you anchor the snare in the open environment pictures you posted.

If you have any pictures even better.

Type disposable stake if used, etc.

Type of snare supports, etc.

Legnth of snare, etc.

thanks,

Maule

[trappincoyotes39]

Sure Maule all my snares where 5 ft long then I had 8-10 ft extensions that hooked to the swivel on the snare. All my snare cable 1x19 either 5/64th or 1/16th in size. All my extensions where 3/32nd 7x7 and one end solid loop for attaching to the snare the other a slip loop without hammering the dbl ferrel down and use a end stop hammer flat on that end, you could wrap around a tree if need be in cover or stake solid. I use plastic tubing on all my snares to attach snare loop to support wire it holds well, key is to keep the loop solid until it is around the coyotes neck.

My snare supports I made out of cold rolled 1/4" steel rod cut 30" long and then welded 2 small nuts at the top on opposite sides, I could wrpa my 11 ga support wire through them and have a solid setup, that way if the support wire ever weakend I could replace in a snap. I tried welding them solid and they worked until the 11 ga broke. So like the wleded nuts far better. Make the support wire long enough so that when the support rod is in the ground it is off to the side of the loop 4-6" is what I do.

Staking the key is it has to be solid. I have used rebar, pogos in ground I could get in and fence post and trees along trails.

In open areas blend in your support as best you can to make it look natural, you can paint them or let them take on rust, I used sticks, wrapped grass around them with fine wire etc to make them look more natural, keep the loop out of the line of sight and the snares must be dull no shiny on them.

[trappincoyotes39]

Here is a photo to see total length this is wrapped around the ash tree nice and solid anchor, you can see the trail and little torn up area before the coyote went down. The support is in the brush pocket just to left of the trail well blended.



Here is another good photo showing I think what you want?

You can see no disturbence to the area the trail and at the top of the photo my support wire looks like the other sticks along the trail, good neck catch plenty of lead to lay them down. Reset your support hang new snare and back in business. No need with the extension to ever pull the anchor just attach new snare to lead cable quick and easy.

[TRay]

Randy, give the new lightning locks a try. I have found them to be supperior to any of the filed cams that I have used. Even if you don't use the trigger device I have found the locks to kill very well. No more "grooved" cams after a couple of catches.

[trappincoyotes39]

Tray I have only seen pics of these, they look like a cam with agressive teeth. I never bought pre filed teeth ones I always bought the real cam locks and filed my own teeth fairly agressive into the cams. The pre done ones most are too soft and to shallow for 1x19 cable. I liked to file my own as I could keep the teeth close to the collar and made for some very tight lock ups.

If I get back to using real snares again here in MO cable restraints only, I might try some of Martys . How many catches can you get beore the lock needs to be filed or thrown away?

[maule]

Thanks for the responses and pictures TC39. That is exactly what I was interested in seeing.

I really like how the Coyotes go down with no real entanglement.

With a total of 13-15' of "lunge" before being brought up to a halt must set the lock extremely tight not giving the Coyote a chance to twist or chew out?

Cool pictures as well and nice looking coyotes.

Thanks,

Maule

[TRay]

Randy the locks are made of a much harder steel then the cams, not going to say they won't ever groove out as I have only used them for a year, but from what I have seen so far they won't.

[trappincoyotes39]

thanks Tray. Hope things are going well for you guys up North!

[trappincoyotes39]

Hey Tray and others a friend sent me a couple of those lightning locks, they look good! Smaller than a cam and look to be well built. I heard they are hardend steel? The teeth are nice and deep and made out of thicker stock than many of todays cam nock offs. Look to be a real good lock.