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Post by mustelameister on Feb 5, 2013 7:40:23 GMT -6
Two side items to the discussion: first of all, I do like placing tubing over the trigger- I'm convinced it does make a coon grab onto something he can't see. that the spongy feel, means food, whereas metal doesn't. I just use procoon and fish oil- a good squirt into the trap is all I do. we can debate that it isn't edible, but it doesn't seem to matter. My plastic tubes that are cut to fit the trigger are kept in a plastic cleaned out peanut butter jar with a healthy shot of procoon. A long screwdriver allows me to fish one out and slide it over the trigger when on the trapline to replace a missing tube. The material of the tube absorbs procoon and with just a little bait below the tube I've come up with a combination that works for me. that the bait stealers were revealed as rodents not so much coon. Next season I plan to use them IN water a lot more to try and reduce rodents and nontargs. CHA-CHING -- Little experimentation this year on this very issue. Because of fewer 'coon the mice had more time to work the sets and I grew extremely frustrated with empty DPs. Tried quite a few covers, some better than others, but often would see 'coon tracks walk right by without hesitation. Got a bundle of lath. Cut 'em in 12" lengths. Drilled holes in 'em so Duke DP stabilizer could be zip tied twice to the end of a piece of lath. Other end cut to a point. Set 'em in water leaning towards the shore where fresh 'coon tracks were present. Squirt of salmon oil/shellfish mix from shoreline 10' up bank/shoreline perpendicular to water. Zero . . . repeat . . . . zero bait theft from mice. Went to 18" lath for sand substrate after finding DP knocked down in water. More experimentation warranted.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 5, 2013 8:05:46 GMT -6
mike- I too use twist ties, in water, and on land as well if too soft a soil. But I don't carry laths-sticks suitable are laying about to be used at will here-
have you used dixie cups? the have a tight fit, and so far, mice etc leave them be
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Post by mustelameister on Feb 5, 2013 9:11:39 GMT -6
Did the dixie cup thing, and styrofoam cups, but they still chewed or slipped under and in.
Aluminum foil cap and they chewed in. Still looking. Saw something in the last Fur-Fish-Game a fellow wrote in about sticking a corn cob down the DP. Haven't tried that one before.
I believe a BIG problem down here this season was the 'coon die off resulting in DPs not being worked by 'coon resulting in more time for the rodents to work 'em. Those buggers and the million 'possum . . .
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Post by trappnman on Feb 5, 2013 10:41:25 GMT -6
Jeepers man- trap some mice in the off seaosn, you are over run!
we had the same thing on coon- normal years I'd still be running- but even the nice wramups produced piddly compared to other years-
sure does bump up the sizes though. and the roads were litterally littered with coon late aug, mid sept and I thought oh boy- going to be good-
I plan my first coyote line, that starts 1 week before coon open, in a loop that I catch very few coon on. This year- starting oct 13, I was releasing multiple coon everyday- nice coon, big coon.
again, figured if catching coon like that where I was, what would it be getting into coon country?
we both know that answer.....sadly
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I've never tried styrofoam cups, but have had good luck with the dixie cups. I get a little chewing, but not enough to matter. Read about putting small rock on top- thought that had merit where available.
yes, I have no doubt that the rodent problem was more noticeable this year because of the time they could work it with no coon
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one of the advantages of liquid bait.....no solid to carry off by meeces
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Post by Wright Brothers on Feb 5, 2013 13:55:21 GMT -6
If you are in rodent turf, you are in good habitat.
Boiled mine off today. The powder coated ones win the easier to clean up badge. Ahh the aroma of coon slobber, fish, lure, and,,, stink bugs. They'll get a latex dunk next then put away until later. Hate rust.
Yes I car washed them the other day. That was an icey afair.
To foil the mice in no water areas I started placing trap high off the ground, seemed to help real good.
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Post by TRAPPERBILL on Feb 5, 2013 17:28:54 GMT -6
At the convention in Marshfield Wisconsin last fall a dealer was selling DP's and had a cap for the traps to prevent rodent problems and keep water out. I think they were made of plastic. Part of it fit inside of the trap . It had a ring like a washer larger than the trap that prevented it from falling into the trap, then a knob on top that the coon could grab and pull the whole thing out of the trap. He was giving them away with the purchase of the traps. It was really the perfect solution. Did anybody else on here see them and if so I would like to find out who he was and where to contact him. I had planned to go back and see if he sold just them without the traps but I got Ill and had to head home .
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Post by motrapperjohn on Feb 6, 2013 14:51:43 GMT -6
A peice of 1"pvc pipe 10' long cut into1" lengths you get about 118 of them ends up being about a dime each. The caps will cost you about .30 each. the setters I use and show the kids to use are the same but longer. .40 each is way cheaper than a $1.30 ea.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 7, 2013 12:16:08 GMT -6
here is an idea-
has anyone tried using pieces of soft screen?
pieces cut 2 x 2 maybe, set over the top and pushed down with your thumb would form inside the trap, leaving the edges out, something easily removable by a coon. then you would be letting more of the lure bait odors out.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 7, 2013 18:26:46 GMT -6
mice and rats love soft vinyl window screen.................
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Post by trappnman on Feb 7, 2013 18:36:10 GMT -6
I was talking metal screen
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Post by Griz on Feb 9, 2013 22:09:02 GMT -6
At the convention in Marshfield Wisconsin last fall a dealer was selling DP's and had a cap for the traps to prevent rodent problems and keep water out. I think they were made of plastic. Part of it fit inside of the trap . It had a ring like a washer larger than the trap that prevented it from falling into the trap, then a knob on top that the coon could grab and pull the whole thing out of the trap. He was giving them away with the purchase of the traps. It was really the perfect solution. Did anybody else on here see them and if so I would like to find out who he was and where to contact him. I had planned to go back and see if he sold just them without the traps but I got Ill and had to head home . www.ztraps.com/Photos.html
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