Wore slick but I won. Today anyway.

[Coon King IV]

Ive got a father/son pair of Patterdales that have decided they would rather fight to the death than look @ each other. They have had some doosie fights the last few months and today was the mother of all.

I bought a set of shock collars that Ive been getting them acustomed to and thought today was the day we would see if this helped. Initially Ill say it didnt. Im 240 and I had to flat lay down on one and pin the other down to keepem apart.

After about 10min of battle I got them seperated and regrouped. Tied one down and then took the other over on a leash to the other dog. Wish I had thought of this method sooner because it was much more controled and effective.

Finally got them to cohabitate then and again later in the day. I can tell they got atleast one more good throw down in'em though.

Whats funny is the lowest setting is plenty for both of them in training. The highest didnt even phase them once they got rolling.

All I know is I gotta win this battle. There the only 2 adult dogs I got right now. Ones only got 3 legs and the other is only a year old. One needs the other if we hit the motherload in a barn this winter.

[braveheart]

I had a tri-tronic collar with 6 settings when this one dog I had would not listen it would get the 6.It would almost knock him down but after 5 hits he finally gave up.They are tough dogs when they get fired they are almost bullet proof.

[Coon King IV]

They lasted almost 10min together today before round 2 started. It was much shorter. If the 3 legged dog fought w/ that hatred towards coons he would be amazing.

[trappnman]

my first beagle, I bought from my cousin.

he kept a male littermate as well- those two pups fought like cats and dogs (so to speak LOL) as pups, but got along fine with all other beagles

we would hunt together once or twice a year, and those two ALWAYS had to renew that battle

its like they had a hatred for each other, that they carried on even after months apart

[C1972]

Any idea what makes them want to fight each other so intently?

[musher]

I've noticed it with male siblings.

It does not go away.

[Coon King IV]

Musher I think your dead on. I have the dad and 2 sons from diffrent litters. Im starting to see it between the siblings now too.
I may just have to hunt them seperate because Im just not going to turn my back on the bloodline.

[redsnow]

I guess, when you get 2 "head-strong" dogs together, you're asking for trouble.

Since you have the shock collars, I'd tie them up, 8 or 10 feet apart, first one that bristled up, I'd zap him. If they both act cocky, I'd zap them both.

A couple of the guys that I bear hunt with, have cattle prods to break up scuffles. I've seen it before, when they start to snarl/growl, it only takes a second, and the fight is over.

If those ideas don't work, I'd buy a can of pepper spray. Like you said above, you've got to stop the fighting. If you don't first thing you know one of them will get it's guts ripped out, cost you $500, and might still lose the dog.

[musher]

I've never had a gut injury in a fight. Heads, faces, ears, shoulders and ears are the main targets.

Once in a while a leg/foot gets it. That peeves me the most.

[redsnow]

I don't know the details of that dog fight. We were bear hunting, and ran into a man from Virginia and his guys, we talked to them on the way off the mountain. I remember the old guy was standing there with 3 of his Plotts, coupled together on one leash.

Ten or 15 minutes later he called us on the radio and wanted the phone # and directions to the nearest vet. Not sure?, it could have been some of their other dogs, that got into a scuffle? But from what they said on the radio, the one dog got opened up.

Years ago a dog jumped on one of my pups, that pup was off to a good start too. After that, she never did hunt right again.