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Post by fishdaddy on Jun 15, 2012 12:15:23 GMT -6
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Post by trappnman on Jun 15, 2012 14:31:28 GMT -6
no.
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Post by fishdaddy on Jun 17, 2012 21:49:51 GMT -6
ok i thought it was you that said it on graybeards..
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2012 8:40:06 GMT -6
nope, never said that-
I have commented on the belief of some not to use urine at dirtholes because its a "food cache"
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Post by fishdaddy on Jun 18, 2012 9:55:32 GMT -6
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Post by bogio on Jun 18, 2012 15:37:08 GMT -6
Looks to me like Steve summed up what he meant quite well in his final post on page one.
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Re: gland lure?
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2011, 03:49:01 PM »I agree 100% Asa-- and I've used your lures and they work very well.
yes, skunk smell in itself, seems to be a universal attractant.
my main point through all of this, was that in my opinion, the hole is more to hold the odor than to imitate something cached
if you give him odors, and a unseen origin of those odors, his natural curiosity, nature takes over.
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Post by fishdaddy on Jun 18, 2012 18:44:57 GMT -6
ok
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Post by fishdaddy on Jun 18, 2012 18:48:25 GMT -6
but more to the point, I'm in the hayfields from April to late October- just about every day- and I toss 1000s of gophers in these fields- I see countless times, where coyotes eat these gophers & play with these gophers. and never have I seen one buried.
and I trap around countless compost/dead piles- and again, I see where they EAT and PLAY- but again, no holes with morsels of meat in them.
and have many carcass piles out and about- many i pass by each week a couple of times- and again- I see what i see.
think about it- do you really think an animal the size of a coyote, is going to take bite sized pieces, and bury a piece here, a piece there? no- canines gorge when feeding (when hungry) and return until the food source is gone (and long after if a big source, but thats another story)
I HAVE seen many times coyotes digging- and what does their digging look like? a trapper made dirthole? not hardly.
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Post by fishdaddy on Jun 18, 2012 18:50:28 GMT -6
out in te field almost evey day during spring and summer- I see constant, constant coyote and fox sign- I see constant instances of where they eat scavaged food, and caught food-
they ain't burying nothing.
the EAT it, or carry it back to the den-
nor saying they NEVER bury stuff- but the point is- does a "dirthole" imitate cached food?
in all my expeirence, it DOES NOT.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 19, 2012 8:17:27 GMT -6
and its still my opinion, a trappers dirthole does not resemble a cached food source.
not sure the point of the thread
did I say fox never bury food?
no, I did not.
did I say in my opinion a dirthole doesn't immitate anything but a hole- yes, I did.
so?
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Post by fishdaddy on Jul 14, 2012 16:27:09 GMT -6
so your saying the hole is the attractor? so no need for bait?
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Post by musher on Jul 14, 2012 17:23:19 GMT -6
I edited the title so it didn't look like a PM.
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Post by trappnman on Jul 16, 2012 6:19:31 GMT -6
what I am saying- is tht anyone making a dirthole, thinking they are IMITATATING a canine burying a food stash, is mistake, IMHO.
if you believe that, then quit using lure, collection urine and prepared baits- and just use whatever natural bait is in your area.
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Post by Aaron.F on Aug 1, 2012 10:10:17 GMT -6
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Post by musher on Aug 1, 2012 12:13:54 GMT -6
It sure is. Thanks for posting. |
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Post by trappnman on Aug 2, 2012 8:55:50 GMT -6
hes probably thinking I buried all that food for later, and those darn kids still found it.
any similarities between how he did it, and dirthole sets? Again, a dirthole is NOT an imitaion of fox burying food for later- if it was, we wouldn't use lures or urine
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