coyotes

[coyoteman37]

with the live market gone what is the "bloodless dispatch" for yotes? fox a quick thump and chest compression works.

[seldom]

A tap on the noggin and a hard stroke across the throat. I use a sand-loaded, aluminum ball bat for the throat strike and it's a 1-n-done. All you get is a shiver out of them and the strike doesn't have to be perfectly across the throat either. Super quick and no dicking around! If you get any blood it's from the nose signifying your noggin tap wasn't quite right! Cable tie or rubberband around the nostrils and a bloody nose becomes a non-issue. 100% bloodless dispatch!

I use the method now for all fox as well. A tap on the noggin, flip'em over and using the same tapper, once across the throat. Takes about as long to write this fox part as it does to dispatch one.

[freepop]

If i get to trap next year, I'll have to try that out. Thanks Seldom.

[RonMarsh]

A blow to the nose with my walking stick. Then place the stick behind the ears, stand on the stick, and pick up the back legs.

[redeagle]

I have had some real fiascoes with the throat part. Maybe I'm striking them in the wrong spot. Had to do multiple repeats. Had some throw up, etc. I try to hit the windpipe but evidently am not very accurate.

[seldom]

Apr 5, 2012 21:29:09 GMT -6 redeagle said:

I have had some real fiascoes with the throat part. Maybe I'm striking them in the wrong spot. Had to do multiple repeats. Had some throw up, etc. I try to hit the windpipe but evidently am not very accurate.

While I never had any of those experiences but there is a reason why I loaded the bat after doing some experimenting with a less dense & weighted bat. Once you flip them over there isn't a lot of area to chose from and my swing is as if I'm splitting knotty, oak firewood.

I found an adult-size aluminum bat at the Goodwill Store for $3, drilled the end of the handle and filled with tamped sand. I made a wooden plug for the hole and it was good to go.

If I'm in view of houses or a busy road I use the CCI Segmented .22lrs and "most" don't bleed but some still bleed through their throat due to blood in their lungs. I had one real bad experience with shooting them just last year. I'd cut my finger very bad skinning coyote the day before so I was having my 87 yearold Dad helping me pull everything be ause I was going to be off trapping for a few weeks.

My first location I had a double so I shot both and we threw them n the back of the truck. I got home and while we put them in the freezer I saw where one had bleed quite a lot. I usually prop them on their back but this one flopped over on the entrance wound side. So bad in fact, we had to completely unload the truck to be able to spray out the bed and the tote bottoms. I think that one coyote leaked every drop of blood it had in it! My whole driveway ran red as did the street while going to the gutter. My driveway looked like I was bleeding hogs for butchering.

[trappnman]

seldom & others-

doesn't the coyote bleed into the fur while skinning anyways?

we had to completely unload the truck to be able to spray out the bed and the tote bottoms. I think that one coyote leaked every drop of blood it had in it! My whole driveway ran red as did the street while going to the gutter. My driveway looked like I was bleeding hogs for butchering.

if only a way to prevent that......

[seldom]

Apr 6, 2012 7:43:10 GMT -6 trappnman said:

seldom & others-

doesn't the coyote bleed into the fur while skinning anyways?

we had to completely unload the truck to be able to spray out the bed and the tote bottoms. I think that one coyote leaked every drop of blood it had in it! My whole driveway ran red as did the street while going to the gutter. My driveway looked like I was bleeding hogs for butchering.

if only a way to prevent that......

Nope, not with the throat strike.

The one that bleed was shot with the segmented .22. Normally shot with one of those you have the entrance hole but seldom will the 3 segments make it through the leather on the opposite side. Usually I'll find them just between the muscle and leather.

It seems to depend on exactly where the entrance hole is because most of the time there will be very little leakage when I'm skinning. "Very little" meaning that I may have to spot clean around that hole and spot cleaning is a lot better than having to wash the whole pelt.

Other than the shot hole I will get bleeding while skinning hot from nicking the veins around the neck and of course the head area. I go to lengths to minimize getting any blood on the pelt when I get to those areas by flipping the carcass and pelt. I start with the carcass hanging as everybody normally does but once I get past the legs I switch the pelt and carcass so that carcass is hanging off the pelt. This lets any blood drip and run down the carcass instead of the pelt.

The flip taking place-

[trappnman]

thats right, I had forgotten about your flipping them. Good idea

[freepop]

Yep, I started flipping them very quick as it seems I always cut too deep on the ears and/or head area. Hated getting a bloody hide when I was almost finished, plus it it easier to see to cut.

[robertw]

Break their necks, no mess no fuss!

[RdFx]

ah yes easy to say Robert when your young yet, try that with carpal tunnel and even after with surgery. Strength just isnt there as was a few years back.

[seldom]

Apr 9, 2012 5:56:58 GMT -6 RdFx said:

ah yes easy to say Robert when your young yet, try that with carpal tunnel and even after with surgery. Strength just isnt there as was a few years back.

You got that right Rdfx!!!!!
Both wrist with carpal tunnel surgery, both elbows root-rootered, bone fused wrist due to breaking two, too many times! Now I go for easy and longevity instead of quick and tough.

[trappnman]

why is blood of any concern?

if oy uhave tumbler, likem any do, then its a moot point-

and even if you wash like I do- I'd wash them w/o blood anyways, to get the dust & dirt out, and to get the fluff back in.

not saying shooting them is better, but it sure is quick and easy.

[jim]

The nose tap puts a little more excitment in your day. Jim

[seldom]

Apr 9, 2012 11:24:45 GMT -6 jim said:

The nose tap puts a little more excitment in your day. Jim

I quit washing some years ago. I found that with me selling to NAFA I didn't realize a cent more for the effort of washing anything. The only thing I do is spot clean IF there is a blood spot and remove all burrs and brush to make sure. NAFA has their own cleaning process before grading and that's fine with me. If I were selling local(which I will never do again) I'd have those babies buffed, fluffed, & puffed!

[trappnman]

yes, shipping I don'; see too much sense in washing if they are tumbled before being graded

but its easier to sew once washed.......... HA!