coyote TRAPPING numbers

[trappnman]

We had had a bunch of coyote polls, and the answers have been interesting, but then the obvious question arises, how many coyotes are we talking, to get certain opinions.

This isn't a poll to bust anyones balls, but an indicator of overall experience with coyotes, here on the forum.

it doens't indicate what type of trapper you may or may not be, but it does indicate, where on the learning curve you (and I) are-

I know this will get a lot of looks, and a lot less that vote- but come on- takes .00056 secs (I timed it) to click your mouse over an option-

[trappnman]

ps- snaring or calling doesn't count for this poll-

[lumberjack]

Im at way less than 10. Havent purposely trapped them for 8 years and dont get many in the handful of fox sets I make.

[jim]

Jan 16, 2012 8:23:12 GMT -6 trappnman said:

ps- snaring or calling doesn't count for this poll-

Glad you specifed that, would also be interesting if it was more than a 24 hour check law. I got 69 in 30 days with a two day check about 2004 early season no frozen dirt. A lot less coyotes here now.


Jim

[freepop]

I don't think catch numbers are a good indicator of trapping skill. I believe it is a better indicator of time spent trapping.

[musher]

I voted. Obviously I catch less than ten - a decade. But I wanted to see the results!

[thebeav2]

I don't think catch numbers are a good indicator of trapping skill. I believe it is a better indicator of time spent trapping.



MORE Important Is the population.

I had probably caught a grand total of 20 coyotes back In the 90s. We had very few coyotes to trap.
Then I went to MS I became a overnight success at trapping coyotes. Lots of days with 5 and 6 coyotes. If you have ten or so coyotes passing by your sets every night you are bound to catch coyotes.

I know the live market guy wouldn't come to the house for less then 20 coyotes at a time. He came 6 times In that month and a half. I also became a cat trapper. I had never caught a cat In my life. That two month trip to Ms netted me 54 cats.

[michaelweese]

33 last season, caught #19 tonight

[trappnman]

beav is right and phil is right-

if you have low populations, then its not going to be possible to take high numbers-

and high numbers don't always equate to higher skill.

but at the same time, someone that consistently takes high numbers season after season, and more importantly than numbers, puts the time out there- the more opportunitys to learn so to speak, the higher the knowledge tree grows.

but this poll isn't about skill per se-

its more "you have this opinion..."

now- is that opinion based on 100 "Opportunitys", or 1000, or 2000?

we all evolve during out careers as trappers.

[northof50]

Judging what is coming in the auctions this year there is a very large upswing in coyotes being prepared for the market. Funny how $ 25 to $ 75 makes a difference.in what gets left in the field and what gets picked up.

[slik1]

caught a few last fall, only trapped 11days, netted 35, lots of mange here too. The big ones just don't seem to have it. Don't know why. I catch alot of stuff in flat sets, some real flashy dirt holes. I think the coyotes numbers are down here, but you go 100 mi north, BINGO. Ask zagman, I think he did 150 this yr. Not too m uch winter here, so I am sure that you could keep on trapping almost into feb. greg

[jdpaint]

What potential?Can the redfox make a comeback and hold steady or increase in an area where mange and the coyotes were thick 3 years ago but much less populated now?

[Possum]

My goal is to catch 1 or 2 coyotes per day for the first month of our season here in Indiana which is canines only. After that, I switch to multi-species which drops me down to a couple three coyotes per week. If I wanted to work harder, I could catch more, but I'm a "sport" trapper and the above numbers give me all the recreation I need.

[slik1]

Thank you very much for the info,1080. I have a vet friend of mine, and enlightened me quite a bit. I knew more than the basics of mange, and now broadened it even more. I was NEVER implying that zag had a procession of yotes going by zagman's traps. or that I had a ph d in mange. I was giving him credit for the CONSISTANT high numbers that he attains. I also apoligized to him in a previous pm. greg

[trappnman]

the theorys on mange resistent coyotes was interesting.

but to me, it seemed like they came up with 2 opposing conclusions-

one, that mange had no overall effect on the population per se

and two that mange infected females has less ova, and a higher reobsorbtion rate, thus, to me, that means resuting in a lower population

what am i missing?

[trappincoyotes39]

Tman mange sure will have an impact on coyote densities in areas with higher densities they will get knocked back down no doubts about that at all. Durring mange one can see in coyote calling contest durring mange years and not how the numbers fluctuate and also the amount of calls for livestock depredation primairly on cattlemen what effect mange has as well. Aerial hunting take also. Mange has an effect for sure.

Ma natures way of cleaning thinsg out. In SD we had mange really bad easy to see where the worst was, the closer you worked by the Indian reservation the higher the numbers were. I had some areas was 60-70% meaning every 6-7 coyotes removed had mange in some fashion. They had high densities of coyotes little to no population control. More mange!

Better habitat for those healthy coyotes to migrate into. The long travel corridors with greta habitat brought more coyotes into it having more effects on mange.

I would love to see a study done on mangy coyotes movement as many I suspect with full blown are home bodies and don't travel far at all. I would say the reverse happens they stay put and other coyotes move into their areas. They are weaker and don't travel as far in adverse weather areas for sure.

[trappnman]

TC-

I had some areas was 60-70% meaning every 6-7 coyotes removed had mange in some fashion.

every 6-7 coyotes out of 10?

[trappincoyotes39]

Yes it was that bad from 2001-2008, wouldn't have paid to trap coyotes in those areas as you would have lost money pitching 6 out of every ten.

There weren't oddities they where the norm, many had bright orange bellies, like rust colored and near worthless. Yes I and others had the same thing happening across their districts.

[trappincoyotes39]

70% plus of those pups didn't see winter they died off long before then.

Any recruitment was from the outside in, not the other way around.

[trappnman]

so how often did you see mange recycle through an area?

seems like after a bout of mange in an area, that the survivors are gentically immune from mange- does that I wonder, keep mange at bay longer?

and why do some areas always seem to have mange, and others (like mine) its a non factor. this year for example had none, last year 1