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Post by trappnman on Jan 6, 2012 8:17:42 GMT -6
Two options to vote:
#1- the type of stake you use
#2- if you use disposibles, what size cable do you use.
Feel free to expand on your answer.
If you use more than 1 type, the question is, what do you PREFER?
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Post by trappnman on Jan 6, 2012 8:19:07 GMT -6
Have bne using and liking the berkshires, but we are going to try some Iowas next year- the two main reasons being- eaiser, perhaps to insert & and 100% reusuable
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Post by Nick C on Jan 6, 2012 11:04:09 GMT -6
Once you use the Iowas, you'll never go back, well at least I wont!  |
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Post by Aaron.F on Jan 6, 2012 11:42:42 GMT -6
Are you guys making your own Iowa's or buying them?
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Post by schweg2 on Jan 6, 2012 11:48:58 GMT -6
#2- if you use disposibles, what size cable do you use. What about us that use chain? |
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Post by ringtail on Jan 6, 2012 13:16:36 GMT -6
x2 on the chain
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Post by hsif11 on Jan 6, 2012 14:24:49 GMT -6
Tried driving the washers into our ground but the driver just wouldn't stand up to it! I haven't had trouble with the original berkshire using a pointed driver. .
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Post by trappnman on Jan 6, 2012 16:10:44 GMT -6
good point on just using chains and disposibles- seems though like I can't modify the poll questions, so lets do this-
where its says "blank"- if you use chains and not cable, then vote "blank"
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Post by bblwi on Jan 6, 2012 21:00:25 GMT -6
I am planning to make some significant changes in my staking and or drag systems this year especially for raccoons. I think it best if I start a new thread on this later than hijack this one.
Bryce
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Post by slik1 on Jan 8, 2012 18:03:43 GMT -6
I was a rebar guy for a very long time. I tried the wolf fangs and had no issues with them. only used them this yr, and am experimenting on getting them out of the ground. Have a few ideas, and if they work, I will post them on here. I tried drilling next to them, some came out, some didn't. So I was mostly just cut and go. Greg
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Post by fishdaddy on Jan 9, 2012 18:49:29 GMT -6
i really like the superstakes on chain.
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Post by trappnman on Jan 10, 2012 8:12:16 GMT -6
what advantage does chain give you?
some bring up chewing, but thats not an issue, cause if a disposible stake is put in right, meaning set below ground, the cable seldom if ever comes into play. I've never lost a coyote ever to a chewed cable, and I use 3/32. If I really thoguht it was a concern, i'd use 1/8 and that concern stops.
all I can think of with chain- is the extra weight.
Here's something that should be brought up- in frozen ground, can you still use your type of stakes?
for sure with the standard berkshires, which I use and like, you cannot. been awhile since I trapped frozen ground enough to hinder stakes but when I did, went back to rebar.
the only thing I don't like about the berkshires, is its like driving a toboggan into the ground- not a problem in "normal" years, but made settng much harder this year with the hard ground.
can you use your disposibles, in frozen ground?
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Post by schweg2 on Jan 10, 2012 8:44:58 GMT -6
Chain is nice when lets say you hit a rock, you don't have to try and "bed" the cable. Chain lays nice and flat.
I'm glad I had chain stakes this year, the ground was so hard I could only get Wolf fangs in 6-8" most spots and I still couldn't get them out even with my puller.
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Post by trappnman on Jan 10, 2012 9:56:03 GMT -6
yes, can see that advantage.
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Post by thebeav2 on Jan 10, 2012 12:51:41 GMT -6
I use cable on all my disposables.
I would think It would be very hard to drive the anchor with chain having to be pulled Into the ground. Soft ground probably not a problem. but In hard ground.
If my cable sticks up a bit I just fold it over and take My BFI and pound It back into the ground. In fact even If my cable doesn't stick up above the ground I always bash the ground around the entrance hole on the disposables path.
In rainy weather I have had water follow the path of the cable or chain down to the stake end and cause them have less holding ability. So by closing the hole In most cases prevents this from happening.
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Post by fishdaddy on Jan 10, 2012 19:23:23 GMT -6
what if you got 16 inches of cable and can only get it in 14 inches the cable sticks up if you use chain nothing sticks up..but if i ran a lot of traps i would use cable cause its cheaper..i dont worry bout the chewing either i have used 5 feet of cable looped to a tree and never had a problem..3/32  |
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Post by thebeav2 on Jan 10, 2012 20:04:57 GMT -6
Two Inches of cable no problem just take your BFI and pound It In .
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Post by trappnman on Jan 10, 2012 20:19:54 GMT -6
what the heck is a BFI?
I know what a BFH is.....
agree with beav, if I can't get any cable in- I prefer getting it 2-3" underground, then set (and I used to not 'set them" but learned to do so....), then I just bend it down, put a clod of dirt over it, and hammer it down.
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Post by trappnman on Jan 10, 2012 20:22:30 GMT -6
on those wolf fangs- got a sample of 1, and it is for sure heavy duty, but in design, its kinda like a beefed up bekrshire-
seems like they'd be a bitch in hard gground- let me add, never used one.
thats why I'm leaning towards iowas, becasue the look like far easier to put into hard ground.
Chris, interesting to read you went from iowas, to berkshires- care to elaborate more?
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Post by trappnman on Jan 10, 2012 20:27:35 GMT -6
also- for those that use rebar-
I see two obvious good points- will go into any rock but bedrock it seems- crooked and bent and maybe not out, but in...
and frozen ground as well
what other advantages, if any, do you see with rebar?
I was a rebar man for years, finally tried disposibles and never looked back.
Why are you sticking with rebar?
for disposible guys- do you change in frozen ground?
1080- you ever set any traps? what do you do in frozen ground? and not 2-3 frozen, but the depth of the stake
and we are talking NEW ground, so none already in- HA!
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