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Post by trappnman on Dec 23, 2011 18:39:47 GMT -6
I don't trap barns and buildings, but occasionally I get a farmer donating me a coon he shot in silo or barn.
just about always, if not always, these are poor coon.
Had one the other day- skun him today, and hes just a poor coon. Big- he was 35 lbs if he was a pound- but poor belly, poor guard hairs, poor color------ just a poor coon compared to the ones I take on the cricks. A coon that big in late december, should be at the top of the game. and its been a noticible pattern over the years that they are not.
same with those spending a lot of time in rocks without travelling much- overall, a poorer coon.
Anyone else notice this pattern- or is it just me?
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Post by bblwi on Dec 23, 2011 19:11:31 GMT -6
Yes starting about this time of year here we get that brownish color with the musty or barny Odor. That is one of the reasons I typically ran my cages during our deer gun season before the farmstead coons started looking and smelling like they do.
I got a big one yesterday, looks OK but has that telltale Odor. Another week and he would have gone backwards along way.
No staining yet but that is just around the corner as the males ready for the rut.
Bryce
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Post by thebeav2 on Dec 24, 2011 8:58:28 GMT -6
There Is a trapper around here that catches 100s of coon and that's all he does Is trap barns with cages. Last year he told me he ended up with a $27.00 average on his coon. I called him on It and he produced his NAFA sales and grading sheet and He was telling the truth. I don't know how long he stays at It but he does produce some very nice coon out of barns. He does however do some cherry picking.
In my experience the females are the ones who produce the worst fur. While the males seem to have better fur. It's probably because the males come and go and don't spend extended time In barns.
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Post by blackhammer on Dec 24, 2011 12:02:32 GMT -6
Know the boys in western Mn that get them out of buildings get some beautiful top lot type coon.
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Post by RdFx on Dec 24, 2011 13:17:10 GMT -6
I get alot of very nice coon out of barns doing exclusion work for farmers in fall. I believe you get just as many (poor) coon in outdoors vs buildings when you add everything up. They all start getting rubbed or stained at some time. maybe some sooner than others. I find i get huge boars with very short hair as if they were plucked or sheared. They are very fat and healthy , just short hair and this is late in season as right now....at first i thought i was harvesting a sow when after turning them over ...NOPE... old boar....
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Post by trappnman on Dec 24, 2011 13:33:13 GMT -6
I find i get huge boars with very short hair as if they were plucked or sheared. They are very fat and healthy , just short hair and this is late in season as right now..
yes, thats what i mean more than anything-
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Post by GoBlueGuy on Dec 24, 2011 15:52:28 GMT -6
I just started trapping this year and because of the time of year and level of knowledge I started placing DP's and live traps around barns. Caught several big boars at first and they all were huge. They also had fur with an orange tint to it. Graded out XXX but the color hurt them according to my fur buyer. I was told that coon in southeast Michigan usually have that color or orange tint. Also the coon were not very aggressive that I caught around the barns. Some creek coons I just caught really came at me and they were half the size.
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Post by packerfan on Dec 25, 2011 11:56:25 GMT -6
Agree with Lee. Late Dec. coon are eithier excellent or junk right now. BOTH in water or barns. My Dec./Jan. coons are better in barns and out buildings. Color may be off, but they run BIGGER than my late water coon. This is in S. Wis.
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Post by Hern on Dec 30, 2011 12:08:27 GMT -6
I like trap'n Barn Coon, they're so FLUFFY and DRY.  I agree with RdFx, good and bad from outdoors and barns. Sometimes it's just hard to drive-by fur. Here's one of eight taken from this barn in November...  |
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Post by ducktrapper on Dec 30, 2011 12:46:37 GMT -6
Experienced a fresh run of traveling coon come through this week. I knew they were wanderers because the area where trapped is full of burrs and these males were burr-free. Right on a trail leading to abandoned house, like they all know that house is there. No telling how many miles that trail wanders, lots of them use it apparently. No rubbing yet, might not even be denned up yet here due to mild weather. Call me nuts, but these coon had an odd smell about them, and that is saying alot for a coon's smell to strike me as odd. It wasn't a barn smell, more of a musk, I think the rut might be on!  |
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Post by claythomas on Dec 31, 2011 5:26:06 GMT -6
I find i get huge boars with very short hair as if they were plucked or sheared. They are very fat and healthy , just short hair and this is late in season as right now.. yes, thats what i mean more than anything- Yep, case in point yesterday, big boar and I bet there isn't a hair on him over an inch long. But on a brighter note he was muddy and one of those ole boars with gristle from the back of his head to his tail. lol |
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Post by RdFx on Dec 31, 2011 10:42:00 GMT -6
aha , like fleshing a spring caught bvr....LOL
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