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Post by Aaron.F on Nov 1, 2011 17:48:35 GMT -6
I am not asking which necessarily works better, but I am curious what percentages you guys are running for coyotes. I am trying for about a 50/50 ratio, but I have a lot more confidence in my dirtholes. I like the way a big showy dirthole looks to me, even though of the few coyotes I have caught more are in the flatsets. Just wondering.
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Post by foxman on Nov 1, 2011 17:54:29 GMT -6
Honestly, probably a 60% dirtholes and 40% flatsets
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Post by stickbowhntr on Nov 1, 2011 19:24:19 GMT -6
With MY limited experence Dirt holes work better on fox and flat sets on coyotes...just my thoughts and limited experences.
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Post by trappnman on Nov 2, 2011 6:18:00 GMT -6
I've come full circle on this- from setting mainly flat sets, to setting , at least so far this year, 100% hole sets. why I'm really not sure- part of it was a progression with a few wet years which meant blending and making a good flat set was far more time consuming than a hole set, and part of it is the routine we have when making sets- plus with the matlock (Mattock) and hammer drill it makes dirtholes far easier. I don't think either outproduces the other, when made in the right terrian. Matlock was a TV show with Andy Griffith in "86"
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Post by orcatdog on Nov 2, 2011 8:38:56 GMT -6
I'm with Steve. Lately I've been doing 100% dirt holes. IMO, if the hole is deep enough and you got the "right stuff" in the bottom of it, a coyote will work it longer / harder trying to get what's in it. And that's our goal, to work the set and get caught. The more / longer they work it, the more chances they are going to step in that sweet spot.
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Post by LKVL on Nov 2, 2011 10:02:16 GMT -6
If I'm targeting coyotes only ..........I use flat sets with some trench sets on occasion. It seems to reduce the number of non target animals. If I'm just fur trapping ......... Then I use mostly dirt holes. Most animals seem to be attracted to the hole and fresh dirt.So there is a chance at catching about any animal that comes along.
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Post by Possum on Nov 6, 2011 6:56:46 GMT -6
I use 99% holes and 1% others. Naturally, I have about 99% of my success in flat sets. I always wondered how to make the coyote put it's foot on the pan at a flat set. Or how unlucky the coyote must have been to hit the pan.
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Post by trappnman on Nov 6, 2011 7:01:30 GMT -6
guiding and the "shape" of the set.
I had problems with such at flat sets, until I started using the walkthrough types as advocated by odon corr, later miranda
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Post by Possum on Nov 7, 2011 13:12:00 GMT -6
I might as well give up on the flat sets the rest of the year. I had one flat set out on my line today and caught a coyote in it. There's my 1 percent for the season! It was a fairly small cow bone (old enough to be about 1/2 fossilized). I set it upright in an alfalfa field, half buried, squirted it with pee and poked a rerod hole a couple inches behind it and poured in a few drops of Carmine's Pro's Choice. Been there about a week. There was a few sprigs of weeds behind the bone as backing, trap set on the east side of the bone. Ugliest set I ever made. The coyote dug up enough soil while waiting for me that I could make a dirthole!
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Post by cmr2 on Nov 7, 2011 18:17:25 GMT -6
at one set location I have a 3 to 1,(flat vs DH) on a set location across the field its 1-0 ,have been making them at 50/50 mostly at area thats not turned on yet I 2 dh/1 fs ,playing there as it turns on later in the year
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