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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Sept 2, 2011 15:36:49 GMT -6
 Here is the last pair of stocking foots that i owned seldom. This day was a pretty nice day but if it gets much colder its hard for me to keep the feet warm. My 600 gram thinsulate bootfoot stay warm pretty much no matter what. This picture has gotten me a bit nostalgic, I havent winter trapped beaver for about 3 years now lol. |
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Post by seldom on Sept 2, 2011 15:55:49 GMT -6
Well it is a nice photo Steven! I also understand why the stocking foot can't keep you warm running the sled! You don't have any problem with the boot-footed breathable allowing the extra wader material to be pushed down into the boots by the water pressure??? Even when I need to wear the fleece-lined wader pants, The water pressure drags the extra material down into the boots and pulls my crotch down so far that I have difficulty climbing out of the water!
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Sept 2, 2011 16:08:07 GMT -6
I always have a pair of wader type pants on underneath, always.
Only variable is if the underarmor long johns are on or not.
As far as the material bunching inside the boot, not that I can recall.
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Post by seldom on Sept 2, 2011 16:24:08 GMT -6
I always have a pair of wader type pants on underneath, always.
Only variable is if the underarmor long johns are on or not.
As far as the material bunching inside the boot, not that I can recall. Yes, Under Armour long johns are a must for sure and usually I can get away with just a pair of thermals over them since I'm walking a lot! I guess I just have too skinny of legs for the boot-footed style!   For those folks who are interested in the stocking-foot breathable here are two photos that show the boots and how the legs fit with this style of wader. I seldom if ever have anybody with me to take photos, so photos of me trapping are few and far between.   |
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Post by calvin on Sept 2, 2011 18:16:00 GMT -6
Steven, I got the Cabelas brand dry plus. Think they have 2 different models...about $20 difference. The extra $20 was worth the extra pockets in the front. Re-inforced knee and the regular boot with thinsulate (can't remember the grams off hand). Kept my feet warm when the rest of me wasn't in the aluminum boat last fall at ice up. Think they were about $175. $400 would be tough for me to part with for waders...but maybe worth it. I/ll buy another set of the Cabelas brand this week. i/ve always been happy with their name brand stuff
Never tried the stocking feet waders. I would assume wearing a wader on a sled would be a pretty good test. Yes, I/ve found the same with the neoprenes...sweat buildup on the inside: They seem to obsorb water on the outside and then freeze stiff when real cold. Also they hot as can be if you/d tried to fish with them in the summer. like one of those sweat suits...only heavier. I/ve also found that when you use the neoprenes a lot, you get little micro holes in the crotch. Hard to seal up the entire crotch area.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 3, 2011 8:40:54 GMT -6
calvin- Oldmink told me that he always undoes his suspenders when getting into the truck- he felt that getting in and out, stretched the croch/seam areas and caused them to break down
that was 5-6 years ago, and I've been doing it his way ever since- and whether its the waders I've had since them, or the method- those holed in the crotch seem to have vanished.
the sweating can be a probelm- but I find that if I pay more attention to my clothes from the waist up, I can control it quite a bit. unless it gets single digits and below cold, I seldom wear anything on top but a T shirt and a light zipper sweatshirt. I can open and shut it, and with gloves its more than warm enough.
for leggings, its either a light pair of cotton long johns, or a silk set of "good ones"-
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Post by trappnman on Sept 3, 2011 8:42:00 GMT -6
also- I've never worn the separate shoe type- my question is why bother? what advantage does having a 2 piece wader, give you?
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Post by stickbowhntr on Sept 3, 2011 10:14:56 GMT -6
Steve I think the reason seldom does and he's stated it several times. IS because he cannot keep from getting his wadders sucked down if the the one piece that FIT all. They fill [compress ] with the watter pressure and the suck them down as he does his stuff. I know excatly what he means.Everything must fit so loose to get on and off they dont hung well.Seldom, AM I RIGHT?
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Post by seldom on Sept 3, 2011 10:35:36 GMT -6
Yup, you're absolutely correct Stick!!
On top of that, the wading/hiking-style boots are a heck of a lot lighter and walk-ability is as if you had on regular hiking boots instead of waders, let alone the I'll-fitting, comparably heavy, clumsy boots on the booted-waders. I know because I have both styles with the same identical wader so i'm comparing apples to apples!
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Post by trappnman on Sept 3, 2011 10:59:31 GMT -6
you are talking just breathables here, correct?
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Post by seldom on Sept 3, 2011 11:53:06 GMT -6
you are talking just breathables here, correct? Yes, that's right and I'm describing my opinion of comparison between the same waders one with stocking-foot-style and with the booted-foot-style. Not the wader persay, the difference between the feet. Here's a photo I just took to give an idea of what Stick and I are talking about with the water compressing the wader leg and pushing the the extra leg material down into the boot and pulling the crotch down. Notice the annular space where I've poked the leg material down in the boot shell. Your leg is of a smaller diameter that the inside diameter of the boot leg, so naturally water fills the space pushing the light fabric down into the boot. I may have repeated myself in the description?  |
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Post by seldom on Sept 3, 2011 12:00:52 GMT -6
As I was describing the lightweight of the breathable, 5-ply wader's fabric, I took these two photos trying to show an example of a pair just sort of bunched-up and held in one hand. Same pair you see in the other photos of mine.   |
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Post by RdFx on Sept 3, 2011 13:26:05 GMT -6
What brand and approx price, Ive fought with neoprene for yrs since they come out. Things i dont like is.... soaks up and retains water, doesnt breath, heavy.... what i like about them is they stretch so when one comes out of creeks with steep banks you can climb without struggling.... at my age...lol.
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Post by packerfan on Sept 3, 2011 13:47:22 GMT -6
breathable....Hodgeman's and Toggs
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Post by seldom on Sept 3, 2011 14:10:58 GMT -6
breathable....Hodgeman's and Toggs That's right, along with Cabela's have a good one(Guide Tech-$200) and Timms has some. |
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Post by calvin on Sept 3, 2011 15:27:33 GMT -6
Just bought a spare pair of the Cabelas brand dry plus. No deals today, really. Were $209. Had a $20 off (get you in the door) coupon so just under $200 after tax. Of course not my size in stock (why on earth would a huge store like Cabelas stock a common size wader in their name?). Anyhow they offered the free shipping so I took it. I think you could do better on that price down the road, however. Getting too close to season to wait, though...and they likely know it.
One thing I will say in the wader world in NEVER get the velcro strap attachments. My last set of neoprenes (Lacross) had the velcro. Got tired of trying to replace the worn out velcro with staples and glue. A nice clip suspender with HD elastic built in is a big plus.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Sept 3, 2011 16:35:15 GMT -6
Calvin, I've been buying the dry plus brand like you just purchased for going on ten years and I aint never seen a pair on sale yet.
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Post by calvin on Sept 3, 2011 19:46:37 GMT -6
They had the cheaper of the two on sale. Were $20 off regular but no double knee, nor front pockets up front. Maybe workable for some activities but those features are well worth the extra money in the world of trapping, IMO.
Seems everytime I get a new pair I find something real sharp. Last new set opened up on a pipe that was sharp as a razor. Of course 250 miles from home but just barely smart enough to have a spare set and a tube of Shoe Goo sport along.
One thing nice is a guy can really cruise down a snowy slope at mach speeds in these dry fabric waders. No drag at all with this fabric. Sticks in the water deflect a lot better than with the neoprenes, too.
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Post by ChrisM on Sept 3, 2011 20:26:36 GMT -6
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Post by kelly on Sept 3, 2011 20:56:29 GMT -6
Chris; Stout is for "husky" sized fellows-you would need regular.
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