Duke DP's and Bass Pro

[trappincoyotes39]

Bass Pro shops is now handleing trapping items under the term land management Who cares they are stepping up and offering trappers some items.

Of course they are handleing the Duke line due to profit margins hard to argue with that really.

I got to put my hands on the Duke DP's and really look them over I don't know if it is this batch or what but the spring rate compaired to a coon dagger is far,far less! I had no problems setting them by hand and just wrapping the dog over the spring and compressing them? Is this normal? I would think more spring rate on a trap that relys on pressure against something concave would be of more benfit for better holds? Just asking if others who have bought these have the same deal?

The daggers I can set them but more than a few and I want my setting tool to make life far easier for sure, not so with the dukes?

What say you?

[thebeav2]

I think It's more of a mechanical advantage with the dagger. I think It's the larger body size and the combination of the square configuration.
I have never had a coon pull out of a Duke DP.

[thorsmightyhammer]

You ever use one?

[trappnman]

Fleet Farm chain carrys Duke traps as well- bodygrips and footholds- I'm guessing they will have dps as well. I think a small line of other trapping stuff as well

but NOT cheap- the prices per trap shock me- but at least they are out there, and people can see trapping still exists.

[blackhammer]

I thought the Dagger looked heavy and clumsey to use compared to the Grizz and Duke dps.I've had one possible pullout in a a lot of coon caught in the Grizz and a decent amount in the Duke.I guess it's all right the public can at least be exposed to traps in places like Fleet Farm.

[trappincoyotes39]

So black hammer in your opinion the dukes need a better spring rate then? Like I said I was shocked how easy I could compress the springs on the dukes.

Beav more than just a mechanical advantage the springs in the dagger are far more stout than the dukes I messed with for sure.

[trappnman]

I think he meant a lot of coon in grizs, and a decent amount in dukes, were caught-

and of all those- he had one pullout

[trappincoyotes39]

OH I guess I read that wrong? I still think the springs in the dukes should have more stoutness to them, I'm going to buy a few and compair them aginst the daggers, the daggers are built darn well for 2.00 more per trap no doubts in my mind. Plus they come with push/pull triggers from the get go. I'm anxious to see what advantage that offers.

[Wright Brothers]

After reading this I had to compare mine. I can not tell any difference in the springs. I'm sure mine may be from a different lot than the ones you looked at. Folks on these boards like to catagorize everything. I had a Granny Smith with a worm so all GSs have worms. Springs made x years ago are not even close to the same steel lot of springs made yesterday.

I prefer the daggers. Most thing that stuck out to me was. Carlis and his Wife took time to talk trapping to a couple that they knew darn well were not going to buy a truck load from them. Just regular non-hero folks.

The chain set is better and the trigger is better, but, caught is caught.

Hey at least your store is selling a legal to you area trap. Can not say the same around here.

[trappincoyotes39]

wright I'm going off of what was available for me to play with and examine, that is why I asked on here if others noticed the same. The dukes DP's they received the springs are far different that is my point, far weaker than the daggers. The only thing I would change on the daggers is add a circle welded ring off the j hook connection to the trap at one angle it can hang up on the design of the j hook hole attachment minor I know, but would improve the swiveling to 360 and be a tad smoother on the swiveling other wise again very well built and worth the few dollars extra IMO.

[thebeav2]

I must be a pure wuss because i can hardly set my Duke DPs by hand.

[trappincoyotes39]

must be old age and artheritis setting in Beav

The ones I played with set under 10 seconds for sure. Again could have been a bad bacth of springs but very easy to set compaired to a dagger.

[Wright Brothers]

I set em with a large screwdriver or a trap stake. Old timers had told me my body wouldn't be bullet proof forever. The older I get the smarter they were. Tendonitis and worn rotators are a beech. Try and use that muscle between the ears instead.

I noticed the area where the chain attaches also. Kind of like a D-ring vs a J-hook through a round hole. Flex is good. Have not really noticed a problem there, but have not checked hundreds of sets like many here have.

[Coon King IV]

I think the Duke sets easier because the tolerance of the wire holding the coon. Its straighter than a griz. It doesnt drag on one side or the other of the tube if ya get what Im saying.

Ive always thought the sping on the griz was a bit much anyway.

[trappincoyotes39]

wright for the daggers I bought me a setter makes life easier for sure and when setting more than a couple I can see a big plus for 5.50. Also I like the fact the day prior I can have them riggged pre set and ready to go should save a pile of time at the set location. If these work as well as I think I will be buying a pile more of them before next season.

[Wright Brothers]

I feel the same way. Guy right down the road here makes those setters wholesale, I just never remember to get a pair. Set more DPs and I bet I will. Another guy over here named Best has given several demos with these traps. The face to face Really cuts the learning curve. If you see him demo at National take it in. He did say at last trappers school his demo days are about done.

So with all this hype do we get a bargain price per dozon yet? Ha.

[trappincoyotes39]

yeh carlis where is our promotional discount LOL. I painted my setter blaze orange and have parachute cord attached to a carabeaner to go through a belt loop and stick in my back pocket hopefully that should keep me from loosing the darn thing LOL.

[blackhammer]

Aug 28, 2011 9:12:15 GMT -6 trappnman said:

I think he meant a lot of coon in grizs, and a decent amount in dukes, were caught-

and of all those- he had one pullout

Correct Steve.

[trappnman]

I had a Granny Smith with a worm so all GSs have worms.

Me too! and I though I was just unlucky......

[michaelweese]

When is bass pro going to sell traps on there websites?