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Post by trappnman on Aug 15, 2011 10:43:00 GMT -6
ever notice, on how some nights it seems every trap is full, and on some other nights, same conditions, nothing moves?
it happens with everything- even gophers where some days every trap seems to hold a gopher, and some others seems like nothing but plugs.
and it can happen (back to fur now) either way on nights one should be able to predict-
a good warm misty night- perfect for coon/water and most times it is- but then you get a similar night and nothing moves.
anyone given any thought, to what makes things move en mass certain nights (or days for that matter)?
sure- weather (storms, rain, wind, etc) all play a part- lets call that normal movement.
but what causes, it seems, every critter of that species, to move THAT night?
sure be interested in hearing any thoughts on this......
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Post by Wright Brothers on Aug 15, 2011 11:02:17 GMT -6
Barometric pressure, moon phase, tides, and weather front movement.
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Post by musher on Aug 15, 2011 16:24:13 GMT -6
I'd like to know the answer to that, too.
It's the same for fish rising. Bugs everywhere every day. But suddenly every fish is slurping them down.
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 15, 2011 19:23:47 GMT -6
Just keep your traps operating 24/7 and you don't have to worry about all these variables. It would be nice to know but there's nothing you can do about It.
Most of us try to make this trapping game way more complicated then It Is.
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Post by musher on Aug 16, 2011 5:06:45 GMT -6
Just keep your traps operating 24/7 and you don't have to worry about all these variables. It would be nice to know but there's nothing you can do about It. Most of us try to make this trapping game way more complicated then It Is. That is very good advice and I really try to follow it. BUT, I still really would like to know. |
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 16, 2011 5:47:01 GMT -6
That is why research is done and new technology helps answer some questions faster, newer GPS and temp reading radio collars etc.
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Post by trappnman on Aug 16, 2011 6:50:01 GMT -6
no, there is nothing that you can do about it (with current available info) but the purpose of my asking, wasn't as a trapping question per se, but as a point of interest for woodsmen/outdoorsmen.
sure, barometer, etc and etc are most likely involved- but I'm talking about similar days or nights with different reactions.
take coon- my all time high in upland coon trapping, occurred in a stretch of 65-70 degree clear as a bell days, during a full moon. catches were low preceding the big day, catches were low after the big day- something I would expect, with hot weather, cloudless days/nights with a full moon.
Yet something, "triggered" movement everywhere, on one particular night.
I posted once before, about the mass squirrel migration I witnessed many years ago. something, triggered that mass movement- there were literally hundreds and hundreds of squirrels moving through that hardwood woods. What made that occur?
or as musher said- what causes fish to hit a hatch one day, butr "ignore" it on other days? and this isn't something localised- when it happens it happens in a broad area
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Post by Rally Hess on Aug 16, 2011 19:01:38 GMT -6
I've witnesses the same here Steve with deer, like your squirrels. Herds of 50-60 animals moving in a single direction for several miles, through good feed areas. I believe it to be natures way of changing genetics in an area on a large scale.
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Post by redeagle on Aug 17, 2011 8:51:00 GMT -6
I'm glad to see that others are wondering about this, too, and it's not just me. Wish I knew the answer.
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Post by bfflobo on Aug 17, 2011 11:50:29 GMT -6
I think it's barometric pressure. It usually starts to change a day or two before we actually see or feel the storm. I think critters can sense how big of a change is coming also. This goes for fur critters as well as mice too elk too cows.
I watch the barometer close at times.
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Post by cmr2 on Aug 17, 2011 14:59:09 GMT -6
seems like at times they move before a storm ,but seems that the best move is right after the storm has came and the critters are up and moving ,don't know if its to move to warm up or to see if food is moving
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 17, 2011 15:24:27 GMT -6
coyotes do not have to eat every day but prolonged bad weather will have them moving prior to and just after really bad weather alot, I have seen the tracks in snow and have always had my best snare days when the temp drops below 20 for a high and single digits to below zero weather sets in and they are on the move big time.
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 18, 2011 8:40:49 GMT -6
It only stands to reason that with the onset of freezing temps you will have more animal movement. It takes more calories to stay warm at that time of the year and those calories have to be replaced.
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Post by trappnman on Aug 18, 2011 9:05:20 GMT -6
beav- im not talking obvious things-
I'm talking about unexpected movement- I'm meaning where one particular night, in a series of peas in a pod nights- seems to be "the" night.
as an example- that coon night i had on upland coon- first and only time on upland, I didn;t know how many coon I had, until I took them out of truck. hot, clear, full moon.
why THAT night? because all "predictions" would indicate little or no movement under those conditions. yet over a wide area, the unexpected happened.
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