Stop loss

[Wright Brothers]

Are they good coon traps? As good as dbl jaw?

Had a few years ago and traded them. Just got some more and thought I'd ask for experiences on here.

1 1/2 V ans 1 Vs, both longs.

[stickbowhntr]

somebody here was looking for some a while back, anybody remember who? maybe PM wright bro and help him out if you do..

[lumberjack]

I think they are overrated. I used them back in the old days when we had rats, and while they did do there job, I always thought there was too much stuff to worry about on them, ie on the Victors, the bar would hang up the trigger, a missed swing at a live rat would bend evreything afoul, messing around with the safety pins w/ cold hands, loss of jawspread, etc.

[packerfan]

Prefer a 1.5 Duke(coil) on a drowner. Lose very few rats,coon.or mink.

[Wright Brothers]

Sounds like you guys had same experience as me. I believe I will clean them up and sell em to someone with rats to trap.

Thanks.

[bblwi]

I use several dozen 1 Victor round pan stoploss traps ever fall for rats in marshes and along my wad-able rivers with considerable grass bank canary grass and some cattail. I catch several coons per year in the stoploss traps and have for 30 years. Many of the areas I set the water is shallow or there is considerable vegetation around the feed bed etc. and thus I have preferred the stoploss trap. I have been reviewing my line management closely the last couple years and feel I have too light of pan tension for my traps and get most rats in front foot catches which I like but get more snapped traps than I like and especially from the coons as well. I have been reading about heavier pan tension for rats and more rear foot catches with people using 1.5 coils. I can see these being better coon traps. My question is do you feel that with more real foot rat catches in shallow water with considerable vegetation that the 1.5 coil will minimize my rat losses and also take a higher percentage of the coon?
Another advantage of the larger size trap is a larger kill area and thus better percentages on feed beds and or houses as well.

Bryce

[trappnman]

actually, a 1.5 stopless, makes as good coon trap as any other good coon trap, if holding the coon is the bench mark of success.

And yes, I think, having used them a fair bit eons ago, that the stoploss feature, DOES make them better at holding coon, than a 1.5 ls w/o the stoploss. In fact, I got all my uncles traps and gear recently as he passed on (another good trapper gone) and he was old school, with #1s for rats, #1.5 ls for mink, and he had a couple of crates of 1.5 stoploss on cables, as, I'd guess, his coon setups.

but its harder to bed stoploss in tight areas, and a stoploss 1.5 doesn't have a low enough profile and lay as flat as I'd like on hard bottoms.

so i prefer coils- but holding coon well?

without a doubt.

Bryce- all my 1.5 coils have no more tension than the springs provide, a loose pan, but they are short notched. My opinion on your concerns, isn't the tension, but a not solid trap. which is why I feel jumps i small sizes, get a lot of snapped traps and misses- the trap is tippy, and rats don;t "walk" into traps- the climb into them- so a tilting trap, would give you more front feet (and misses). I'd say, off the top of my head, that my 1.5 coils are 50/50 insofar as front or rear catches on mink/rats.

[mtcbrlatrap]

I can see the tension deal. I also need to work on bending dogs in my 1s to increase the pan tension also. I had some 1.5 Victors 20 years ago and sold them. At that time I was using the delayed release spring and I actually lost more rats out of the 1.5s as the trap was too heavy for the rat to move enough to trip the trigger. They also did not lay as flat as I would like them to either. I will do some comparisons this fall to see how things work out.

Bryce