home made speed dip

[mr. finch]

Was thinking about just buying some then I got to thinking isn't it just paint ? Can you just go to the store and use house paint ? Anyone know what store bought paints do best ?

[buckfreak]

Speed dip is NON fibered roof coating thinned with paint thinner. Commercial fishermen use the same thing to tar nets with. Rustoleum paint works too.

[ksboy2]

i use rustoleum paint thinned with gasoline.. just make sure you air the traps out.. usually i clean and dip my traps in early spring and let them air out all summer then wax them in the fall right before season... not even going to coat them this year just gonna wax them this fall... i cover most of my traps... so why worry about paint? just rust preventative

[mr. finch]

Out of a gallon of paint how much thinner do you add ?

[kspanky]

I got some home aid speed dip from a friend out here smells just like the stuff you buy my friend told me he mixed 1 gallon roof patch with 1 gallon acetone than you mix that 1 quart mix with 1 gallon acetone and dip your traps.
He says he does all his traps like that and catches lot of coyotes and cats he says the acetone is lots better than gas,kspanky

[mr. finch]

After its mixed can you seal it up and store it ?

[mustelameister]

I store speed dip mixed with Coleman fuel from year to year in a large gasoline can marked appropriately. No problem.

[calvin]

Yes, you can also use house paint. I get it free from the recycle center and store it in my basement (don't want to let paint freeze). You can also get damaged cans anywhere paint is sold for cheap.

[ksboy2]

i use one quart of paint and about a gallon of gas

[mr. finch]

When useing house paint how do you cut it ?

[trappnman]

why add gas? the diluted paint does the trick well enough on its own

I cut it with mineral spirits

[calvin]

I get the latex stuff. I don't doubt the oil base is better, though. I just like the latex because I/m cheap and water is free....and clean up is easy. Kind of a trial and error on the thinning part for me. I keep a pail in the basement or shed and add odd colored paint or water whenever needed.

[ksboy2]

i tried the latex one time i didn't much like the powdery residue that was left when the traps got cold... to each their own i guess... whatever works for you.. i only dip about 6 dozen traps... 8 bucks for the paint and another 3 for the gas doesn't seem that expensive for the product i get when I am done... i think the rustoleum paint holds up better too and is more protective if you use salt on your sets

[possumpincher]

anybody know why they started using the stuff the do it never seems to dry for me. Why tar ?

[gcs]

If your dip isn't drying, add more thinners.
The Homemade net dip will not be sticky if you get the mix right.

[Bigfoot]

roofing tar does not harden but the "asphalt net coat "from menphis net and twine hardens very well . If there is wax residue left on your traps they will never dry right and smell like your thinner for ever . I use mineral spirits for a thinner . It's not unusual for me to dip mid season and have traps in opperation next day . When I trap otters in 330s I don,t like rust stains on the fur so I dip regularly I have never had one pull fur because it was to tacky ,I had this happen when I used coleman fuel .

[kelly]

Feb 16, 2011 10:10:48 GMT -6 calvin said:

I get the latex stuff. I don't doubt the oil base is better, though. I just like the latex because I/m cheap and water is free....and clean up is easy. Kind of a trial and error on the thinning part for me. I keep a pail in the basement or shed and add odd colored paint or water whenever needed.

Yep, been using cheap latex paint just like Calvin for several years on my water traps. I thin mine a bunch just like the Formua One says, 2-3 parts water to 1 part paint. yes, it is very thin and dries fast so one can do several coats. Remember that it is always better to put on multiple thin coats than one thick coat. Not only will it dry better but the excess runs off quickly before drying. Not so with the thick coat.

I store it in my 5 gallon dipping pail-just add either paint or water depending upon how I feel the mixtures is working. When it runs/drips off way too fast-add more paint. When it runs/drips off slowly it is too thick so add more water.

Any combinations of brown, black, grey and green can be used in mixture to get desired color. Of course, my preferred color is olive drab but rarely does one find that in house paint.

[redeagle]

You could go to a place that sells paint (Walmart, Lowe's, etc.,) and have them mix up whatever color you want.

[TrapperRon]

For me the black or brown Rustoleum (tremclad) cut 50 % with mineral spirits of paint thinner works great. Next round I will try cutting with 60% paint thinner. Just hand the traps outside for a month and all the odor is gone. This rust proofs your traps just fine.

I think for the candid traps you may want to go with a non petroleum product like Formula 1, then wax appropriately. It has good reviews so far as I have read, but never used it myself.

[gcs]

I had poor results with Formula 1, mostly rusting under the dip, and build up in the tight places.
In it's defense, Newt claimed some water sources worked better then others and that may be so as a lot of people seem to like it.
The homemade dip I use is Non fibered foundation coat cut with Mineral Spirits, cheap, stores forever, covers well and dry's hard with no apparent smell, but I havn't used it on canine traps.
It also is a good net dip, and works well on pretty much any rusted object like tow chains, old tools, anything you want to get a protective coat on that paint may not do well with.
The thinned Rustoleum sounds good too, but the dip is so cheap to make I never bothered.