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Post by Coon King IV on Jan 5, 2011 22:05:48 GMT -6
Thinking about getting 2-3 for rooting coons out of barns.
I was thinking I was gonna go w/ Jack Russell's but wow any hunting stock is up there in price.
I plan on breeding them mainly because I love pack dogs and puppies are always nice. Are the patterdales popular enough I'll have enough people wanting one?
Jagds may be on the big side and are not as popular as Jacks.
So many options.........thoughts-opinion welcome.
If ya know any breeders speak up. Not intereset in shows or looks just natural ground instinct and good health history.
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Post by musher on Jan 6, 2011 16:05:55 GMT -6
Considering that all dogs cost the same to feed and keep, shouldn't you go for the jacks? You say that they are expensive. That means that they are in demand. That means that you'll sell the pups easily.
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Post by niteprowler on Jan 6, 2011 17:06:23 GMT -6
Coonage - Private Message Sent
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Post by braveheart on Jan 7, 2011 5:33:16 GMT -6
Get some patterdales and stay away from the rat snapper Russels.
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Post by Coon King IV on Jan 7, 2011 8:25:49 GMT -6
Musher you pretty much read mind. What dont you like about the Russells Braveheart?
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Post by musher on Jan 7, 2011 17:57:01 GMT -6
Musher you pretty much read mind. What dont you like about the Russells Braveheart? And my wife thinks I'm a dope (sometimes!) I'm curious about the russells's, too. coonage: Please post your location in your profile. |
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Post by braveheart on Jan 9, 2011 18:03:50 GMT -6
I have seen a pile of Russels while hunting.They have a excellent nose to locate but all I have seen have no stones to back up the yap.And are very dog aggressive just like the Jags. I have seen.And a good hunt will get wrecked by dog aggressive dogs.
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Post by Coon King IV on Jan 10, 2011 16:56:46 GMT -6
Im with ya now braveheart. Im thinking I should probably tke along a hammer,shovel,nail bar.
Anything else! Im thinking I should get something for the dogs too as far as medically, sure as I dont first trip out one will get gashed worse than anyone has ever seen lol.
All info is appreciated, I am new to barn dogs and ground and pound hunting in general.
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Post by musher on Jan 10, 2011 18:28:41 GMT -6
Check out terrierman.com. You'll learn lots!
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Post by braveheart on Jan 10, 2011 20:32:37 GMT -6
Most of the hunting guys I have known all disappeared.They are all still hunting but not on any boards.They do get beat up but grandulex that they use on horses is the very best thing out there for wound care.It is the only one that promotes tissue growth and get rid of the dead tissue.The just cleaning and sanitation of the bites and cuts goes a long way .It is a thrill to hunt good dogs or watch good dogs work.
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Post by orcatdog on Mar 8, 2011 19:06:23 GMT -6
Not sure about your area, but Jack Russells are a dime a dozen around here. Most people can't even sell them. Pound is full of them. NO market at all. They are hyper, don't listen and all the one's I've hunted with can face bark and make lots of noise with the best of them; but as Braveheart mentioned, few have the balls to do the job. But if you are looking for hair pulling, throat grabbing, death shacking, no fear, small dogs. A Patterdale is the only way to go IMO. They are still rare enough most people don't even know what they are. For breeding, I would take my chances with a proven Patterdale or cross. And remember, if you research Patterdales, essentially they are refined Jack Russells bred to Staffshire Terriers (mini pit bulls). Now remember, I'm kinda partial to the little black farts!  |
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Post by braveheart on Mar 9, 2011 6:53:07 GMT -6
It will be hard to find good black dogs for sale.The real deals are kept by the working guys.And the guys that breed to sell will bred a dog with out testing them.A good one will will have to go to hell and back to be breed.Those are far and few.Good luck.
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Post by netrap on Apr 8, 2011 9:10:24 GMT -6
Check with Denny Stiers in Shubert, NE. He has Patterdales. Heck of a trapper too.
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Post by braveheart on Apr 8, 2011 19:53:47 GMT -6
I beg the differ.Be very careful there.
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Post by Coon King IV on Jul 7, 2011 9:01:38 GMT -6
Ended up getting a couple Pattys for free no less.....how lucky was that.
A blk female and a red male about 8mo old in Dec.
Got them on a possum and 2 coons right before the season ended here in Jan.
All in seperate trips. By the 3rd encounter the male "Ollie" was really getting w/ it and well on his way to being a beast.
Woke up on the Fourth of July to find both had got thru 3 layers of chain link and a hot wire. My female was in the yard but Ollie nowhere to be found. He wasnt in the pasture rounding up the cattle so I started to fear the worst.
I found him in the highway not too far from a culvert he discovered on a previous escape.
I still get tore up just thinking about it. I only had him a short time but he grew on me quick. He was all heart. Hopefully I can find another but he will never be replaced for sure.
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Post by trappnman on Jul 7, 2011 9:56:40 GMT -6
sorry for your loss- I've lost more than one hound on the roads, and it hurts.
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Post by musher on Jul 7, 2011 10:40:33 GMT -6
That sucks.
how does a dog get through 3 layers of chain link and a hot fence?
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Post by Coon King IV on Jul 7, 2011 11:32:59 GMT -6
I had it layered at the bottom. He would grab it and yank like there was no tomorrow. Like a Pit Bull only smaller. Amazing what he could get done in just a few hours.
He built up a resistance to the fence. Planned on replacing w/ a small squared cattle panel just hadnt got too it yet. If you didnt let him out atleast twice a day he went to work on it. The female couldnt care less about getting out.
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Post by musher on Jul 7, 2011 18:38:34 GMT -6
Wow!
His teeth would have been a mess in the future.
They sound like little bundles of naphta.
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