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Post by coloradocat on Jul 28, 2008 8:11:12 GMT -6
I know there alot of guys that just refuse to do it. Whether its ethics or not confident enough. But theres alot of us that do.
My question is, are you more confident holding on a runner and swinging through, or do you lead and follow through.
Personally, I cant lead nothing. For what ever reason. I tend to hold on them and try and keep the same speed with them.
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Post by 17HMR on Jul 28, 2008 9:50:02 GMT -6
This should be a interesting thread, and somthing I would like to know a lot more about. I have my best luck in coyotes that are running away at about a 45, but still am not real good at that, some hits a little farther back than I like. I too like to follow through on target as you do. Also how do you practice these type of shots?
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Post by coloradocat on Jul 28, 2008 9:53:48 GMT -6
Myself, the only way I get to practice, is to shoot at runners. And like you, I dont mind that running straight away from me. Its those crossers that get me everytime,lol.
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Post by lb on Jul 28, 2008 10:34:48 GMT -6
nah, nah! It's those secondary streakers running to my right, causing me to shift my body. I might as well save the ammo?
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Post by northof50 on Jul 28, 2008 18:24:15 GMT -6
Are you left hander or right. Swinging into and swinging out are two different positions. As you say we are not dealing with up the derrier on this post. This is where knowing you ballistics of you gun pays off.and the lead that is needed. From trigger squeeze , lock time and to impact 100---200--300--400 yd. Do you know what size a yote is in your scope @100--200--300-- Free hand or bi-pod... How many rounds do you put through the gun a year? Same gun all the time? Are you rushed, 75 yards and it's over the hill. How much sound education do these yotes have?
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Post by RShaw on Jul 28, 2008 20:57:49 GMT -6
Eliminate all those variables. From 0 to 300 yards, shoot standing up, hold on fur, and give a small push at the trigger break.
Randy
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Post by northof50 on Jul 28, 2008 22:28:43 GMT -6
How are you on pass shooting on ducks? Some master it others just blaze away and get lucky. Reminds me of how the questions were at recrutment for the military and how you were pigeon holed at the time. Question 1- where ya from..... Minn. Question 2- Do you duck hunt.....yes Little did you know you were already selected to be a gunner on a chopper. Said by a Vietnam 3 tour person, after the fact.
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Post by trappnman on Jul 29, 2008 8:27:05 GMT -6
watched a video once that reminds me of this- perhaps one of yours lb?-
the shooter pulls up on a called coyote..and bang, bang, bang..and that coyote goes running off...and the voice over says something like.... "yup, theres that 17 he loves so well..."
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Post by northof50 on Jul 30, 2008 7:33:30 GMT -6
Na it was the shooter behind the 17. you tube coyote calling. there 20 videos..
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Post by trappnman on Jul 30, 2008 16:00:18 GMT -6
I saw it in a decoydog calling tape Wiley lent me.
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Post by rockcreekcurs on Jul 30, 2008 20:02:50 GMT -6
Jackie Bushman would be very upset with you guys...
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Post by markymark on Jul 31, 2008 5:17:48 GMT -6
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Post by Wright Brothers on Jul 31, 2008 9:05:20 GMT -6
My Grandpap had a method for shooting running deer in timber. Instead of swinging and blazing bark he would keep both eyes open, hold at an opening, when the target met the opening he would shoot. Very effective.
When I was a teen we had a cement plant slurry dump near home. It reminded me of the surface of the moon, was sloped away, and people dumped tires, bottles and junk there. Every weekend I would shoot a box of high powered rifle hand loads. Shooting at rolling tires and thrown bottles made a good shooter better.
Thought I was pretty good until missing a black bear running up hill with only a small window to get it done. I never knew a bear could move that fast. The rifle I used is now showing barrel wash out. So I can blame the rifle, uh huh.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jul 31, 2008 15:26:25 GMT -6
the more you do it the better one will get, still a low% shot for sure, distance,speed and angle of target any or all changes then your "standard" lead goes out the window. I have made some nice running shots, but then like all the rest I have missed my share. Depends on the situation if I take it or come back another day from a different spot, with some different sounds and try again.
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Post by northof50 on Jul 31, 2008 23:06:23 GMT -6
Practice on RUNNING ground squirrels with a 22 @ 100-150 yds. Once you get good at it yotes in 4 by 4 will be a piece of cake. It all boils down in how fast you can figure your trigonometry out with ballistics of what you are shooting. A WW1 sniper taught me for hours on end to figure out the down range placements of his loads 303's so even before we went into the field, I would know where things fell in what wind, speed and inflection etc, paper work some times pays off. It's what saved his life, one shot was enough not to pinpoint his position on the line, he kept telling methat's what saved his life..
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Post by trappnman on Aug 1, 2008 8:24:24 GMT -6
Practice on RUNNING ground squirrels with a 22 @ 100-150 yds
that would do it!
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Post by northof50 on Aug 1, 2008 14:35:03 GMT -6
Theground sq.'s run 10 yards then they jump in the air. that is their method of seeing soaring halks from the grass cover. It's knowing when the bounch occurs. Any one can wack stander's.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Aug 1, 2008 15:57:20 GMT -6
Those squirrels can not cover the real estate of a spooked coyote. Apples and oranges on that. Plus multiple angles those coyotes will take. Not to mention big differance in MV between a rimfire and center fire.
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Post by monstertom on Aug 2, 2008 9:52:07 GMT -6
Spend a week days prior to coyote time on the trap range, It will give you a good understanding of lead and swing at different angles. A coyote running true broadside I swing through and just before i run out of scope squeeze. Quartering shots lead 2-3 feet off his nose bingo. granted this is for shots 100- 200yards adjust accordingly for closer, farther shots I let them go and get them another day.
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Post by trappnman on Aug 4, 2008 8:08:10 GMT -6
if you want to learn to about lead, aim, etc- there is NOTHING better than shooting barn pigeons.
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