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Post by Maineman on Apr 21, 2004 7:37:12 GMT -6
After starting thte yard work this weekend I noticed some small holes around the manure pit...Upon further investigation, I dug up a small vole...Now that I'm looking, it seems I got them in a couple different areas of the property because I can see the trails and holes in other areas...
I do have 1 of those "spike" mole traps but have never really used it and was looking for suggestions to get rid of these things...Traps? Poison? Other?
Could use some suggestions...
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Post by trappnman on Apr 22, 2004 6:48:18 GMT -6
Those spike traps are weird- you either are "lucky" with them or "unlucky". My dad would catch every mole he tried for with them....I've never caught a mole with them! My thought on voles would be that there IS a better way...what that is...I'll leave to others.... If no other advice is forthcoming- the Victor pincher type of gopher trap (I call them "little greenies" because they are a bright green trap) would be the right size to fit into holes the size of voles.
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Post by James White on Apr 23, 2004 9:19:34 GMT -6
If they are Voles,Then you can easily catch them by using basic mouse traps,near there holes were they come up.
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Post by Bill Phillips on Aug 22, 2004 22:14:47 GMT -6
No Moles work great for them too, along the trails too.
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Smitty
Demoman...
just let me set one more trap
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Post by Smitty on Oct 2, 2004 13:06:49 GMT -6
what is no moles
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Post by ctnwco860 on Dec 27, 2004 19:25:02 GMT -6
Nomols can be found & seen at the following address: www.nomol.comThey are the only mole trap on the market that will catch moles, shrews, and voles.
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Post by Russell S on Dec 29, 2004 7:08:52 GMT -6
And I can attest to what Alan has said. I have caught moles, voles and shrews with NoMoles. But my mole trap of choice is the Out O Sight. As for voles, standard mouse traps, baited with peanut butter and perhaps some sunflower seeds. YO may want to consided placing them in a section of PVC or something like that to keep them out of the weather.
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Post by walkercoonhunter(Aaron L.) on Mar 4, 2005 11:37:18 GMT -6
if this is for your yard go to your local walmart and buy a bag of (seven)if you get rid of the grubs in your yard you will get rid of the moles and voles...i done this and the neighbors yards look like gardens and mine looked great...lol :)was the easiest way i found to get rid of them...
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Post by trapperjoemo on Mar 4, 2005 18:05:21 GMT -6
Hey Walker... moles eat more than grubs. Actually they mainly eat earthworms, so I`ve been taught. But it is good for the yard to get rid of the grubs, and the 7 might be killing every insect in the ground. That`s too bad because the earthworms are very benificial. I use Victor spear type traps for moles, and snap type mouse traps for voles. I set the snap traps blind "across" the vole trails, and I wire them to a small weight or stake to keep the cats and owls from taking them. It works for me. Joe
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Post by lynxcat on Apr 15, 2005 7:13:05 GMT -6
For voles....I fill in ALL the holes...next day I find the active ones...set three traps per hole baited with "green" peanutbutter w/small piece of apple...THEN cover with a 5 gallon bucket with a rock on top....VERY quick and 100% effective.. later lynx
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Post by lynxcat on Apr 15, 2005 7:43:07 GMT -6
OK....now "They are the only mole trap on the market that will catch moles, shrews, and voles"....BUT what about pocket gophers.....
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Post by trapperjoemo on May 30, 2005 7:27:39 GMT -6
Lynx, I would use the Cinch gopher traps if I was after Plains Pocket Gophers. No experience with any other gophers or gopher traps.
Joe
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Post by ArkansasFrog on May 30, 2005 9:38:19 GMT -6
Pee in a coffee can all day and that evening pour it in the main holes about a cup full in each hole and they will leave pronto Frog
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Post by trappnman on May 30, 2005 10:35:57 GMT -6
you should try pan traps- used right, will outperform those cinch traps.
I personally dislike those cinch traps- but I know some like them and do well with them.
Would be curious to know how you trapped 10,000 in 4 months- 2500 a month....84 a day rain or shine for 120 consecutive days.....
the sheer work of setting that many traps and resetting them in new mounds each day....
Around here- any land that flat to allow that much trapping without driving is cash cropped and they have no gophers.
Here, all are in the contour strips. To run 75-100 traps in a day is a day..and count on a least 1-2 days a week where rain keeps you home.
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Post by trapperjoemo on Jun 4, 2005 9:16:37 GMT -6
Tman, the gophers I trapped were in Northern NV. Can you say "NO rain?" lol I was using about 160 traps. worked one field at a time, center pivot irragation, 120 acres in the circle I think. The crop was alfalfa. I was able to ride an ATV until the hay was about two feet tall. The schedule... at first light I ride out and start setting the fresh, dark colored dirt mounds. Set all 160 traps in about 3 hours. NO shovel required!. Then go back to the begining of the set area and start checking. 50-75% catch with very few misses. If the FRESH mounds are still visible, rest those traps, or some of them. Go back to camp/home and wait untill early evening to check them again. Sometimes reset, sometimes hold those traps until the next morning. I was always trying to stay ahead of the constantly moving irragation, or get in behind it about by one day and keep up with it. Catch was 150-200 per day, with many days over 200. 1,000-1,200 per week common. Much more could be done if you stay out all day, but, you end up riding farther, and working harder for those mid-day gophers, (I feel). Daytime when the wind died down to less than 20mph, I spent shooting ground squirrels on the 10 acre corners of the fields. Some farmers/ranchers even give .22 ammo for this. And I`m told some would pay for the squirrels too. When the hay gets tall the farmers says stay out, you take a weeks vacation. Come back to short cut fields ripe for the (gopher picking!) In closing, I might add that maybe in this situation the cinch traps can outperform the others? I guess the real test would be to just do it.
Joe
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Post by hdwolfer on Jun 4, 2005 13:00:47 GMT -6
Steve, you forget some of us have tried the pan trap, the DK1 and all the rest many years ago, and found that the cinch modified out is a whole lot simplier, faster and easier to run and check. Just got in from checking 100 cinch traps had 92 gophers. That is kinda the normal percentage when you run cinches. Also did 5100+ gophers in 46 days of acutal trapping this spring with cinch traps. Will try and get zagman to post pictures of bagged up gophers on the truck headed to a urine herd for feed.
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Post by Zagman on Jul 28, 2005 14:36:48 GMT -6
Per your request.........
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Post by trapperjoemo on Jul 28, 2005 16:36:27 GMT -6
Cool pics HD. When I trapped we had not even thought about selling the carcass`. What a sweet deal you`ve got! I hope you are getting paid well for the whole process, start to finish.
Joe
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Post by hdwolfer on Jul 29, 2005 6:11:12 GMT -6
trapperjoe, don't know how sweet a deal it is having 7 freezers full and hoping the power doesn't fail. Had one freezer act up so had to unload it and buy a new one. Doesn't sound like much trouble but to move one freezer have to unload another and move it too then put everything back. It takes a couple hours to unload the freezers and load up the truck. And where do you dump 5100 gophers without the world yelling about the stink!
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Post by trappnman on Jul 29, 2005 6:27:33 GMT -6
different strokes for different folks. In my opinion, the cinch trap can be tossed inthe ditch.
in fact, I don't even use the ones I have - why? they are, in my opinion, for me, worthless.
no shovel? - here you wouldn't be trapping- I find MAYBE 1 open hole a day. most days none. If you are setting 160 traps without a shovel- your gophers are a different species or for sure different habits. 99.999999999999% of the mounds HAVE to be opened up and opened up by digging 1-2 feet down. And driving in hay 2 feet tall? heavens- its cut or chopped when its a foot or so high. most farmers around here cut on schedule- every 4 weeks- all summer long. When that grass gets 4-5 inches tall- you are done until next time.
last 15 years, I've taken about 2500-3500 gophers a season with these methods and thats flat out hitting them hard...HARD. 100 miles a day many days.
the Quickset is the best cinch type of trap I ever used- and I'll still take a pan trap over them any day.
do you think I just fell off of the gopher truck yesterday? I've been trapping gophers full time for close to 20 years and part time for close to 50. I've tested all ther popular traps- and for me, pan traps are it.
160 traps in 3 hours..LOL not here- not ever. Setting 100 traps here is an all day thing. if I have a big field here that you would set 160 traps in- trapping isn't needed its cash crop and the gophers are poisoned. Why trap when you udon't need to? Al ltrapping herei s in narrow contour strips.
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