Yotes that Bark

[romans117]

My son and I called for about three hours on Sunday morning. Called in five dogs in first three stands. The first dog was a big male I knew was coming because I heard a bark before he showed. Maybe it is just my area. I posted a few months ago on barking dogs into the gun and was made out to be the fool. I am realizing the last 20-25 dogs a bark either was heard before the distress call or after a couple of series. I am not talking about alarm barks, or challenges what ever that means.

[lb]

While I wouldn't call somebody a fool, who might be postulating any theory (whatsoever) about coyotes, I do have an opinion on the subject of barking coyotes, in general.

If you hear one coyote barking, or several, while on stand, that is not a good thing..... in those places where I usually hunt. This does not mean that it is not possible to call a coyote that has barked at you, it means (to me) that he might never come into gun range, much less show himself.

Of course, there are solutions to that situation, but none of them will result in a success ration as high as those where the coyote does not bark, in any interpretation of "bark". In other words, get out your howler and plan on spending a little more time. Or, a coaxer, or some other variation, move a short distance; stuff like that.

I certainly could do without a coyote ever barking at me, while on stand. To me, it usually means that I did something wrong, or this place has been hunted a little too much.

I have not done a study. In fact, I think most scientific "studies" about such things are mostly worthless, as far as being applicable to actually hunting coyotes.

Good hunting. LB

[romans117]

A single bark. I know what an alarm bark or a I busted you bark or a I have heard that before bark. It is not a theory.

[lb]

so, you can distinguish between (what) four different barks, and know what they mean?

[gunny]

All the yotes I've had bark when calling were signalling their buddys to get of of dodge.

Generally, one short bark and they are headed for the border.

[richc]

I think maybe that Romans is speaking of the high pitched Yip that a coyote sometimes makes when chasing a rabbit. Sort of an excited YIP--------YIP---------YIP. I consider an excited "YIP" to be different than a bark. I have personally not heard a coyote do that when coming to my call. I do remember a late relative telling me of a coyote yipping while coming to his predator call. Coyotes that I have met, usually come in silently.

[edge]

**All the yotes I've had bark when calling were signalling their buddys to get of of dodge.**

Yep,do not Pass Festus,do not pick up Miss Kitty......get G O N E.

Pups(YOY)tend to yip.......early,have no idea why,but a yip is not a bark.

Edge

[romans117]

A bark, not a yip, but thanks.

[Zach]

I had a coyote start barking at me as I walked to my stand last week. Typically I would turn around and drive a couple of miles after that. BUT I had my cur dog with me and I thought he may entice the coyote. It took 5 minutes to spot that barking coyote out in the brush, he was a long way out there. It took 45 minutes of coaxing to get that coyote to come in. I could tell it was against his better judgement. Trot 30 yards closer then sit down and bark for 5 minutes, 30 more yards and sit down and bark..... I kissed him in from about 400 yards to about 250 yards and that was all the closer he would come. He was locked onto my dog and that is the only reason he came that close. It was very satisfying to call in a barking coyote, since it seldom works. It would have been more satisfying to shoot him, but I missed. My point is, I believe the coyote only came in because of my dog and my persistance. It takes a long time and many people would rather spend time calling coyotes that come running, myself included, than waste time trying to call a coyote that knows all about you.

[trappincoyotes39]

When a coyote "barks" he/she is doing it for a reason, none of which could be considered a positive when they hear a distress call, unless heavily hunted and have heard that song and dance times before and are letting himself be known he/she doesn't like it.

Does that mean that some can't be convinced to come in? Nope it just means the older the coyote and the more conditioned it is the less likely it will.

A yip or whine is associated with distress sounds and sounds that signal a hunting scene or kill taking place. One study suggested that coyotes will use a low bark to let others know of position on a hunt of larger prey, this was never confirmed by other studies conducted of watching coyotes on a "hunt".

My question would be what distress sounds are you using to elicit this "bark"? I would be in favor of what others mentioned that a barking coyote on a calling stand during the fall/winter is one that is alarmed about something in the area and I would consider it a negative and not a positive in calling.

Many coyotes that catch movement and a short time later hear sounds from that direction will bark, as the scenario doesn't build confidence in the coyote, but over time some coyotes consider the distress sounds as "real" because the bark didn't shut it up or make it stop?

I'm wondering with the amount of coyotes your getting this "bark" response from that they are seeing you come into the stand? Also how many of these barking coyotes did you call in and kill out of the 25?

[romans117]

The question is how many of them could I have killed had I not missed. Every dog that I have heard do a single bark has come into gun range. Less than 100 yards. Not an alarm bark or any variation of a whimper, squaller, yip, yap, or any other thing. It is a communication type bark. A single note. Most times it is before I distress call. No howl. And no I am not around a house where I would mistake a domestic dog bark. The remaining times it is after a series or two of distress. I have called in 30 dogs this fall and have had it happen only twice. Earlier this year it happened very frequently.

[trappincoyotes39]

All barks are a form of communication, what it communicates is where things can get tricky. Are you calling in multiple coyotes or mainly singles? The ones you are killing are they adult coyotes or yoy coyotes? Also not being hard on you but, at 100 yrds or less with a decent rifle your kill rate should be very,very high?

[romans117]

Single dogs 90% of the time. I get the shakes bad on coyotes. More than one and I am shaking like a drunk on DT's. A mental thing. I have a mantra I go through now. Aim Low. Aim Low Aim Low.

[richc]

" Aim Low. Aim Low Aim Low."
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