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Post by Bob Jameson on Feb 9, 2008 8:33:11 GMT -6
For the last two years I have been working with two European Universities in the countries of Croatia and Slovenia. The University of Ljubljana in Slovenia of the European Union and the University of Udine in Croatia.Bulgaria is now funded to start up their own study as a recent contact from the Veterinary School of Medicine there has been in touch with me. These Universities are doing DNA sampling collections using hair samples from the endangered Lynx in that part of the world.I developed a rubbing post formula used to entice these cats to work their rubbing post and enable them to gather hair samples for their study. I have posted a photo of one of the 150 plus rubbing post projections used in the one University studies.There are several hundred such rubbing stations in position throughout these European Countries from what I am told. The one study project should be completed this spring and the results should be ready for review by summer I am told. The director of the one project Dr.Djuro Huber is willing to share the data with me and I will consequently post this information as it becomes available. The rubbing post is constructed of a 3x3 post that has velcro attached to the face and sides, a good smear of rubbing scent and a strand or 2 of barbed wire. A very simple device but quite effective I am told. I did not develop the idea for the rubbing post materials. However it appears it should serve the purpose. Bears have been a problem in some areas as they have been attracted to the rubbing scent and some other wildlife have found interest in rubbing on it as well due to the other identifiable hair samples found on the post and wire barbs. I expressed early on that the ingredients would certainly be multi specie attractive if in fact there are other wild canines,red stag(deer) and other smaller mammals in the study region.This they found out.Lynx samples have been collected on several sites at this point and they are pleased with their efforts. I look forward to their study results and shall share them upon receiving them. Bob Jameson _________________________ www.jamesonsultrablend.com
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Post by garman on Feb 9, 2008 9:29:24 GMT -6
that is pretty neat thanks for the info.
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Post by JWarren on Feb 9, 2008 10:26:04 GMT -6
another good thing for hair samples is a frayed 7x7 snare with a paper clip for a lock
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Post by walkercoonhunter(Aaron L.) on Feb 9, 2008 11:33:42 GMT -6
well where ever that post is should be good soil for sang...i see the golden seal growing there so its fertile soil conditions....
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Post by Stef on Feb 9, 2008 12:18:22 GMT -6
I was working with several peoples too on a lynx in France, cougar in Eastern Canada and another South america cat in Bolivia that I don't remember the name and the past 2 years, they were working with foxes there.
The researchers were using a PVC pipe with holes in them. It was set vertically. Lure was inside the pipe Around the pipe the attached with "ty-wraps" a rubber/plastic carpet with studs on it. Animals rubbed on the carpet and researchers collect the hairs on them. In France, they all use a camera where the rubbing stations are. So when they collect furs, they are supposed to have a picture of the animal who rubbed on the station.
That's cool ;D
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Post by thebeav2 on Feb 9, 2008 12:38:06 GMT -6
Here In WI we have funded similar studies on Bob cats don't know exactly how they are setting up the lure stations
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Post by Bob Jameson on Feb 9, 2008 12:44:16 GMT -6
It is quite interesting to speak with these individuals. Some dont have much if any background in trapping and animal behaviors etc except what they have read. I attempted to help them as much as possible with location and placement. I may be heading over there to work in the field if all goes well .
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Post by briankroberts on Feb 9, 2008 13:12:14 GMT -6
That would be interesting,to say the least. Seems as though all your hard work has paid off Bob. Congrats!...B...
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Post by bblwi on Feb 9, 2008 13:17:59 GMT -6
Yes the WTA is helping to sponsor research in WI on Bobcat using hair snares and then they can DNA sample the hair tufts. We are doing this to try to establish better data on the range of Bobcats in WI and their total population. If we can prove that bobcats have a wider range and more numbers we can open up more areas of the state to trapping and hunting and offer more permits. Currently only about the northern 1/3rd of WI has a bobcat season and it currently takes about 7-8 years to get a permit.
Bryce
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Post by Zagman on Feb 9, 2008 13:44:45 GMT -6
Any other Slovenians on here besides me? Going there next summer.....
Really neat stuff, Mr. Bob.
MZ
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Post by Bob Jameson on Feb 9, 2008 15:20:08 GMT -6
I honestly didnt know much about that region and their wildlife and how advanced they were in that field.Obviously there is work being done world wide with respects to learning and hopefully helping to preserve the species if humanly possible. I have learned much from their course of study and the data result projections should prove promising.
I guess thats what I get for spending so much time alone and in the field doing what I do testing and re testing. Many say I am a strange individual, compared to the norm I suppose that I am. LOL I have no worries though as I have found my niche.
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Post by musher on Feb 9, 2008 17:06:21 GMT -6
I didn't even know that lynx "rubbed."
Any details about the lure? Do you offer it commercially?
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Post by K9Wolfer on Feb 9, 2008 18:04:14 GMT -6
I dont see any Goldenseal in the picture?
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Post by Bob Jameson on Feb 9, 2008 18:29:50 GMT -6
It is not offered commercially as of yet. I have been using it for 3 years now as private stock and it is being used in several case studies now for 2 years. It does its job. I may have a batch done ready for fall but at this time it still needs more ageing before bottling. Its one of those products that requires about 18 months or so for completion.
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Post by ClaytonStockwell on Feb 10, 2008 6:57:26 GMT -6
Very interesting information Bob. I would find any updates on the study equally interesting.
While trapping last fall, I thought of test stations for bobcat and fisher. Bobcat are in the area but scarce - and fisher becoming established but not in abundance.
I was thinking of cubby with scent and a trail cam. Any advice on that idea?
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Post by Bob Jameson on Feb 10, 2008 8:25:29 GMT -6
Depending on what you are attempting to do a scent station can be developed for track recognition in soft dirt, a rubbing post for initiating hair samples and to encourage frequent visitations, Scent in this case should be changed every so often to keep interest when there is no real reward offered. I am sure a cubby would work as eye good eye appeal and an interest object presentation for purposes of photos or video captures.
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Post by ClaytonStockwell on Feb 10, 2008 8:48:34 GMT -6
Thanks Bob. I'm interested in seeing the critters. I can't trap a cat here so a photo would be the next best thing. The scent with visual attractor and dirt tell-tale sounds like a workable idea. I like cruising the woods during the summer and it would be a worthwhile line. I think it would gain me access permission to new places in the area. Thanks again
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