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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Nov 26, 2007 0:08:11 GMT -6
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Post by GUTPYLZ on Nov 26, 2007 0:56:24 GMT -6
Nice Joel! Nice country your in. I just bought some of Steve's Lure, so I hope that I will be able to catch up with you when I set next weekend.
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Post by Bottomline on Nov 26, 2007 6:48:02 GMT -6
Good looking cats. Beautiful country!
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Post by lynxcat on Nov 26, 2007 7:35:23 GMT -6
VERY nice... what the HECK is that last thing? ? lynx
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Post by Bob Jameson on Nov 26, 2007 10:28:05 GMT -6
NO doubt and then some........ Trying to make everyone jealous again I see, nice cats and country. We all slobber when you Nevada guys post pics and catches, keep them coming.I have to wait another month before I can start cat trapping.
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Post by robertw on Nov 26, 2007 10:31:06 GMT -6
Do you harvest your breeding females or do you farm your bobcat population?
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Nov 26, 2007 12:53:03 GMT -6
Take them all, when you throw the females back it screws up the biological data. Our male/female ratio is important information as is the kitten/adult ratio.
Our data is what keeps us going. We have the best in the country as far as I know.
Trappers have to personally present their cats, no wives or mothers.
The limits some states have encourages trappers to throw back females and yearlings which makes their data invalid.
Our populations have held their own since the late 70's when we started this.
Joel
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Post by robertw on Nov 26, 2007 14:51:56 GMT -6
So is your cat population holding it own, improving or does it vary from year to year following the rabbit cycles?
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Post by hotandry on Nov 26, 2007 16:40:01 GMT -6
Joel,
That last cat in the dark has some gorgeous markings.
All three look like adult toms.
And the coyote . . . well what the heck.
Congrats.
-John
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Post by Bob Jameson on Nov 26, 2007 19:02:54 GMT -6
Joel you catching those coyotes in water sets eh? MMmmm Didnt think you had water in Nevada cept for the reservoirs.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Nov 26, 2007 19:26:30 GMT -6
Robert the way we interpret the data is high M/F ratios indicate low exploitation, kind of like shooting bucks over does. The kitten/adult ratio gives us an idea about what kind of recruitment we are getting into the population. The populations do fluctuate due to environmental conditions but it's pretty obvious that price is the main driver of the harvest.
We've harvested between 900 and 5000 for the past 30 years averaging probably around 3000 per year.
John they were all big toms 42" to 44" long, I just stretched them. The last one was probably the worst of the bunch as far as the belly goes. The game warden was sitting on him on to make sure whoever had him was checking traps on time. Glad that I was!!
Bob, we've been so dry for the past year that I'm setting around water. The Govt. trapper supervisor told me that they have seen everything clustered around the creeks and springs this year.
Joel
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Post by Bob Jameson on Nov 27, 2007 8:03:22 GMT -6
That is what I suspected. They all eventually need to get to water before or after feeding or both at times with some.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Nov 27, 2007 22:43:44 GMT -6
I'm not sure about that, there are places I catch cats that the closest water is 30 miles away.
Maybe they travel or have a drip someplace but I swear a cat can live without it. Kangaroo rats can synthesize water from the Hydrogen and Oxygen in their food and that is a lot of what these cats eat.
Those desert cat turds come out almost white at times as they've squeezed every drop out!!
Joel
Joel
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Post by Decatur on Nov 28, 2007 7:39:57 GMT -6
Cool!
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Post by Stef on Nov 28, 2007 8:06:26 GMT -6
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