maka
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Post by maka on Jan 2, 2007 12:35:51 GMT -6
This is not just for steve. Anybody with an opinion is welcome.
I have been setting an area for yotes using dirt holes, and I have caught 2 but it has been slowing down. There is still tons of fresh sign though.
After reading Steves articles on the essays page about flat sets and Lure use I thought I had the confidence to try a flat set yesterday.
I pounded a stick in the ground covered it with Fox pee and put about 5 times as much Cavens Terminator as I have ever used.
I checked this morning and I had a snapped trap. The trap was still in its bed and there was no mess I could see were the coyote stepped and must have slipped over the trap jaw. I don't think I bedded properly ( very muddy .
Will this coyote still be catchable if I didn't pinch him.
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Post by Steve Gappa on Jan 2, 2007 18:51:49 GMT -6
maka, I changed your title because if addressed to one person, it limits debates sometimes...
To your question-
I believe so. That is, I think that that coyote will visit your set again.
With wild conjecture-
I think that much ofd a coyotes reactions and action to things, is very similar to domestic dogs. What does a doemstic dog do when something spooks him? Jumps back, runs a few feet and looks back at what spooked him. If nothing moving and nothing happening, he will most likely go back to the area and cautiously investigate it. I think, based on observed coyote reactions when collared and released, that coyotes do the same.
Same set? if good lure, I believe so. I've played that little digging game a time or two- where a canine digs at the set every night for a couple of mighhts in a row- and then one day he's sitting there- and the only cure was to just cover the trap back up.
I know that a good lure- one formulated to evoke certain reactions- will attract the same canine over and over...
just as your dog will go and smell that same place every time out hunting.
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maka
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Post by maka on Jan 2, 2007 18:59:23 GMT -6
Thanks for changing the name of the thread steve, that was pretty narrow minded of me.
It is just that I had you I my mind because I have been reading all your writings on the Essay's page.
Thanks for the reply also. I am really trying to get better at this K9 trapping. I really find it intrigueing.
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Post by bill1306 (Phil) on Jan 2, 2007 19:01:07 GMT -6
I don't know how much pan tension you are running on your traps. I know I run 2 1/2 to 3 lbs. One of the kids I've helped with trapping around here, was having a lot of sprung traps without catching anything or seeing any sign of an animal visiting the sets. When he went from no tension to 2 lbs, he stopped having the sprung traps. Without any tension a mouse could run across the trap and set it off without catching it. Just keep after the coyote and sooner or later he'll give up his Pj's.
Phil
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magnus
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Post by magnus on Jan 2, 2007 21:10:06 GMT -6
I'm thinking with the heavy lure you said you used, that he may have tried to roll in it and that's what snapped the trap right in place. I doubt it hurt or discouraged him. Hopefully you just remade the set and he'll be waiting for you tomorrow! Be sure to post a picture...
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