region map in TPC

[mostinterestingmanintheworld]

I wonder if the Eastern regions are accurate on this map.

I think the lines on the Western side of the country need to be changed.

Joel

[bobwendt]

species like cats especially you can`t even region. I`ve caught a 30 dollar cat and a 400 cat side by side and both identical fur length and body size. but one brown bellied and the other white. plus catch the 400 cat in october or novemver in the centrals and he is same asa $30 summer roadkill. regions are for strictly neophytes that havn`t a clue so they least have someplace to start.

[Steve Gappa]

I find the reports pretty darn acurate for my region. the latest reports ae exactly how it is for region 12

[thorsmightyhammer]

Yeah well they got me in region 10.

More like a 12 but whatever.

[mostinterestingmanintheworld]

Regions 6,7,9 make no sense to me.

Joel

[billcat]

The 'cat pics we've been seeing of Las Vegas cats sure don't look like the cats I used to catch down there 30 years ago. Look to be in the same league with Northern Nevada's. Bigger, paler and better furred than they used to be. Great pics, gut and Tracy. The lines in the west never have made sense to me. Just part of the skin game, IMHO.

Bill

[cameron2]

Bill:

Must be the result of the nuclear fallout that produces those big pale cats.

Actually, they even seem to vary from canyon to canyon. Some canyons produce those little buff flat cats, and the next canyon over produces those thick, pale, blue cats we all love to catch.

[bblwi]

I would anticipate some micro regions in the West with altitude itself a big one and also windward versus leeward side of the mountain ranges along with large canyons that would cause large scale migrations etc. to take on very different paths than say East of the Rockies. We can see some difference here even in WI from South East to Northwest in coons as to size and straightness of guard hairs etc.

Bryce

[bobwendt]

for instance, the 70 miles from indianapolis to lafayette is an entirely different coon and coyote- more than a grade or region for sure. those tpc maps are just vague averages at best, like buyers that buy carcase beaver by the pound because they havn`t the foggiest how to grade.

[Steve Gappa]

Of course the regions are appx- who would think they are boundaries set in stone?

TPC AND FFG are pretty damn accurate year after year.

I find them to be almost spot on for MY region.

[mostinterestingmanintheworld]

I was looking at it this morning.

To include coastal California with central Nevada is about as far apart as you can get on cat quality. (Probably everything else as well).

Baja Mexico cats in the same region as Reno NV? Give me a break!!

Drawing the line through Nevada isn't even close.

Central Arizona fur the same as the Eastern border of Alaska?

Looks like they used the continental divide of Rocky Mtns. as some kind of a line between Region 7 and 9.

I can make some sense of the thought that may have gone into the rest of the West as far as geography but it doesn't have much basis in reality as far as fur in the real world.

I have a feeling that a coon buyer divided up the east and midwest and then just got out the pencil and took a wild assed guess with the Western U.S.

Anyway it sure doesn't make much sense to me.

I've trapped six Western states so I have a bit of an idea of what can be found from that experience and conversations with trappers and buyers.

Joel

[trappnman]

jole- you bring up some good points. My region is right on pretty much in prices and aea inclosed... so I guess I figured the rest were close also.

[mostinterestingmanintheworld]

Steve region 12 is the Great Lakes and prarie pothole region of Canada isn't it?

Fairly homogenous country? I don't know as I've never been there.

Joel

[bblwi]

Great Lakes yes Joel but more like the Canadian Shield area of Canada and not the prairie pot hole region.
The coon in the eastern Great Lakes are similar to ours in size and quality of pelt but the guard hair is not straight and the pelt is more kinky in appearance. They don't dye and shear as nice for the trim market with that type of nap to their fur.
Canadian grade coon are similar in their fur makeup also. Big heavy coons with a twist to the fur.
A trapper I have seen a couple 100 western WI coons and they are more silver colored and straighter guard haired then even ours next to Lake Michigan. I get mostly all Western heavies or northerns at NAFA, a few north centrals on the earlier hides and every year some Canadians. I asked at our rendezvous last year and that is what I was told on the grading.

Bryce