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Post by k9 on Apr 15, 2006 7:39:14 GMT -6
What is your method of fly control while making bait? I bury some, and other I have a plastic barrel that I can put five gallon buckets of bait in, then duct tape the top on real good to keep flys and maggots out, and still lets gasses escape. Buckets have lid on them also. Have had no problem with that, flies will lay some eggs on the outside of the barrel but have had no trouble with maggots making it to the bait.
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Post by thebeav2 on Apr 15, 2006 7:56:34 GMT -6
I buy mine from RK660. The first step Is making sure that what you start with has no eggs on It. Flies can be fast and tricky.
Gary
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Post by SteveCraig on Apr 15, 2006 9:37:14 GMT -6
New 5 gallon buckets, cut a hole in the lid, insert a rubber tube in the hole, silicone it in the lid hole real good, Run the other end of the tube into a gallon of water. Let her gas all it wants. Never had fly problems this way.
Today though, I just get it from Rich! ;D Steve
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Post by Stanley on Apr 15, 2006 11:19:35 GMT -6
5 gal pails with lids. Duck tape. Bury is wet sand. This is what I do for my fish oil. I fish Lake Michigan, we catch some real nice fish. Best time is end of July and August for the Salmon. Now is the time to catch the brown trout in the shallows. It helps that my buddy is a charter Capt. When we clean the fish, he's filleting them and I'm cut up the carcasses putting them in the pails. We get some strange looks in the fish house when doing this. lol Roe is a great bait, less mess and it will get nice and thick and pastie.
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Post by billcat on Apr 15, 2006 13:04:04 GMT -6
I've drilled a hole for a tubless tire valve stem. Put it in backwards, the gasses will open the core and relieve the pressure. Automaticaly closes when the pressure drops.
For glass jugs, I just put a clean cloth over the open end, then screw the lid back on. Doesn't need to be super tight. Seals out flies/maggots, but is porous enough to let the gasses out. A wire is wraped around the cloth and jug below the lid, twist it tight; this will keep the eggs away from the lid. Undo the wire and clean out the eggs (better yet, cut the excess cloth off below the lid) before opening the jug. Use a new cloth when re-sealing the jug.
Bill
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Post by rk660 on Apr 15, 2006 17:14:47 GMT -6
if good seal on bucket w/ large o-ring in place and clean flies or larve wont get in. simplest venting ive found is wine cock, mounts with rubber stopper, just drill 3/4 hole in bucket lid. You add water or better yet mineral oil/ glcerine as it wont evapertate. Ive got wine cocks on hand if you cant locate any. You'll get eggs all over edge of bucket but if good seal and vented no contanimation. I keep a couple of them liquid fly traps around to keep numbers down. If in a screened in cage of sorts or covered with tarp, you can kill most of them real quick with that hog house fly spray, sometimes after unjugging bait, let them swarm in the empty 5 gal buckets, then spray and hold lid up to trap them for about 10 seconds. No getting rid of flys and eggs, just keep them out of bait, and kill as you go. I dont know how far them blow flys come from, but I bet pretty far, as not a fly around and in about 2 days 1000's of them.
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Post by NEPISIGUIT on Apr 15, 2006 17:22:24 GMT -6
Use the same kind of aparatus that is used in making wine. This unit can be fitted with a hollow cork again from the wine store. Simply fit the cork into a pre drilled hole in your container top Can seal your cork in if you want. Works great.
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Post by braveheart on Apr 15, 2006 19:58:26 GMT -6
I made 30 gal. of Nelson bait one year and had no problem with flies.I use only glass gallon jars.Same with lure.And also made 15 gallon of catfish oil also with no flies.Just wipe down the lid if any fly eggs.You work your bait and lure daily so you should keep ahead of the game.
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Post by Bob Jameson on Apr 21, 2006 6:02:29 GMT -6
I vent dozens of buckets and jars annually. I have used the method with a tube in the lid also but you also ruin lids this way but it works quite well. I vent the flex tube out and wrap a small piece of cheese cloth over the end and tape it on and let it hang freely.
I am also a licensed Pest Control Agent so I have access to commercial insect control products. With experimentation I found that using an aerosol can of a good residual pesticide sprayed on the under side of the lid around the rubber O ring seal only and also spraying the upper rim and outside edge of the bucket mouth will hold the flies off for a week at a time or more without eggs.
If you can purchase a 20oz. aerosol can of good insecticide from a local outfit or maybe even a farm store it works great. Cyfluthrin and permethrin products work the best and have the longest effects after application. It is also a repellent as well as a knockdown product.
I just set the lid back on the top of the buckets and press down to seal a little. Or just seal 2 opposite sides of the bucket to allow it to breathe and keep the lid from blowing off from the wind and to allow gas off as needed.
I have too many buckets to drill any more so I have gone to this method exclusively for bait making and aging for short term effect.For glands and other similiar type long term aging processes I use the tube vent method since they may be working for months to a year or longer.
Another cheap and effective method is to place your containers in a black trash bag and close the top portion of the bag very securely. Lid doesnt need to be seated firmly since the bag will protect the container contents. Set out in the sun on black top, on an old black painted sheet metal piece or plywood, a rooftop that solarizes (garage etc.) and is accessable by step ladder. Place your containers in a box or crate so as not to blow off and you can age some baits depending upon the container size in a few days or less if the temps are cooperating.
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Post by briankroberts on Apr 21, 2006 15:15:16 GMT -6
I taint most of my meat in a little lower temps. I've got an old fridge that runs at around 55 degrees, plus a lot of my cat meat gets tainted in the winter in my shed with heat from the wood stove during the day and cool at night. Ain't a whole lot of flies out at that time of the year around here. I really like to taint meat at a lower temp for a longer period of time, it just turns out better( In My Opinion). Once its tainted &preserved I either add the bait solution or freeze it. If I add the solution I just put it in 5 gallon buckets and let it age for a month or 2 in the shade on the north side of the building. Now when I mix the Cheese I don't worry about flies as there not drawn to it!! I've had people tell me its way to rotten for even flies.....B......
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Post by braveheart on Apr 21, 2006 20:03:48 GMT -6
I have used a old chest deep freezer with a 100 watt light bulb .It will get it to 100 degrees fairly easy.That works also to keep flies away.It's always fun to pop the lid open.
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Post by lynxcat on Apr 21, 2006 20:17:43 GMT -6
I have a "hole" that fits a LARGE plastic tub that is SUB surface(burried)....things taint MUCH slower...and MUCH nicer a little bit at a time...I have used EVERY method...cloth...water...yada..yada...lately I've been using an aquarium bubbler block/wand....with a SLOW taint burried...NO flies....little gas...and works 100% of the time...I just take the OLD ones that dont do as well out of the 90gal and use em... lynx
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