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Post by musher on May 2, 2007 18:01:45 GMT -6
I've never had to do it but I know people that have.
The first way is the "call the warden with the tranquilizer gun" way.
The second is just go up and do it. It seems that they are calm. A buddy that has released several says that if they have one foot in the air they won't lift the other. I'm skeptical because they sure stomp wolves and I've seen a viddeo of a cow stomping some poor guy in Alaska.
Any info?
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Post by NEPISIGUIT on May 2, 2007 19:30:14 GMT -6
Don,t know what happens but i think that when they get caught by the leg they fight the snare and do damage to their leg mussles. Had two this year that even though the snare was cut the animals were unable to remain upright and finally had to be put down. Not sure if any were released without problems but will check.
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Post by edge on May 2, 2007 20:28:34 GMT -6
**A buddy that has released several says that if they have one foot in the air they won't lift the other. **
Not sure about moose,but it is absolutely untrue for whitetails,horses and mules.
Edge
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Post by robertw on May 2, 2007 20:49:24 GMT -6
"Not sure about moose,but it is absolutely untrue for whitetails,horses and mules."
You can add cattle, antelope, mule deer and elk to that list as well!
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Post by Hornhunter on May 2, 2007 21:37:10 GMT -6
I always used a release of some sort on the coyote snares. Couldn't tell you how many moose had been caught and released by themselves. One struggled out of one snare only to walk into the next.
One morning I had a young moose caught by a rear leg. It was quite open and no matter how I tried he would face me. Figuring he'd release himself i sawed the support tree off and out of the flowage and up an old railroad bed he ran. later a mile up the road he turned off still dragging the small tree. I'm sure he tangled up again and the s hook released in time.
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Post by InzanaOutfitters on May 6, 2007 22:19:19 GMT -6
The best way is to use a break away on your snare. This past year I had 2 moose break 300 lb Hopkins breakaways on my wolf snares and still killed 9 wolves with no losses. When the break aways fail to release, usually due to attaching the snare to a tree with spring in it, I have had success roping a leg and stretching him out until he goes down. I then cut the cable and run like a crazy Canadian trapper with a 1800lb ticked off moose on his tail. Once the moose realizes he is free he will take off in to the bush. It is also helpful if you can find a helper and get him to do as much of the work as possible.
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Post by ColdSteel on May 6, 2007 23:22:26 GMT -6
Dang,I thought I had it bad by having to release so many dogs ;D.I would love to see some photos of a moose release
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Post by musher on May 7, 2007 4:33:20 GMT -6
inzana: I'm assuming that the moose takes off with the rope you used to stretch it. How does the moose get the rope off?
It musn't be easy to stretch a moose.
I've heard of that method with bears. The idea is that a bear can chew off the rope.
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Post by InzanaOutfitters on May 8, 2007 13:42:26 GMT -6
From my experiences with moose in snares, and I have a lot less now with the breakawy as mentioned, the moose usually pulls away and if he cant break the snare or breakawy, he will charge. If you are close you should watch out because if the snare breaks then you are in big troubble. The moose will try to knock you over and stomp the daylights out of you. I am allways ready to jump behind a tree for a berrier between me and the moose, I also allways carry my 338 just in case. When you release the moose with the rope on its leg, he will kick off the rope within 100 yards as there is no locking device on the rope. I have been happy with the 300lb hopkins breakawy on wolf snares but am eagerly awaiting some breakawys from Marty Senneker. Marty is developing some now and will be break testing them soon. I will be heading out to my lodge bear hunting for the next month and will not be able to reply to any more questions. Best wishes www.inzanaoutfitters.com |
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Post by musher on May 8, 2007 15:28:04 GMT -6
Nice wolf pics on your site. A couple are pretty big. You also seem to have quite a few black ones.
I think your moose are more aggressive than ours. I'm glad to know about the rope flying off. Thanks.
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Post by thebeav2 on May 8, 2007 15:49:33 GMT -6
I want to see you guys put the rope on the moose's leg and I would pay big money to see It done to a bear LOL I'm glad I don't have to deal with moose or bears.
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Post by 17HMR on May 8, 2007 16:07:10 GMT -6
Beav, you should see what happens when you rope a deer or lope around the neck from horse back, Ill never do it again.
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Post by lynxcat on May 9, 2007 20:35:34 GMT -6
Had a cow moose run me around a shack in Sun Valley Idaho the other day... about 20 minutes she ran me... lol Got MAJOR tiring after awhile... guess a wolf had killed her calf and she'd been in a VERY PISSY mood the last week or two.. JUST MY LUCK!!!
lynx
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Post by GUTPYLZ on May 10, 2007 19:46:08 GMT -6
Maybe, she was in heat and wanted a little Lynx action! ;D
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Post by robertw on May 10, 2007 20:05:11 GMT -6
I've used a lariat on a few "Great Pyrenease" guard dogs! Always best if you are VERY CLOSE to the truck cab when you release them!!!
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Post by edge on May 10, 2007 20:49:59 GMT -6
**"Great Pyrenease" guard dogs! **
My respect to you,Robert,those are "dogs" in name only.........otherwise some sort of pre-historic ball-of-hair-and-teeth beasty.............with an odor and disposition to match.
Edge
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Post by robertw on May 10, 2007 21:02:33 GMT -6
Edge, Yes they are perfectly capable of actually killing and eating you literally!
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Post by edge on May 10, 2007 21:35:10 GMT -6
**Yes they are perfectly capable of actually killing and eating you literally! **
About a year after I left MI,a rancher I worked for said he got a new predator control "guy"..........several Greater Pyrennes...........
he said,"I think they like killing more than *you* do"......not sure if that was a compliment or not.My contract pretty much said anything that didnt go "Baaaah"or"cluck";died.
Edge
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Post by lynxcat on May 10, 2007 22:02:47 GMT -6
Maybe, she was in heat and wanted a little Lynx action! ;D I SEE... a d**e moose lookin for a little "puddy" eh??? Troy... YOU ARE ONE SICK PUP!!! I "like" it... ;D |
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Post by musher on May 11, 2007 11:26:50 GMT -6
I guess that's there's a huge difference between "show" pyrenes and working ones. (isn't that always the case ?) I've seen a couple of show ones. They were stupid sissy dogs. Expensive to feed and too lazy to bark.
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