coyote in timber area

[oursnorb]

Do you tink that an timber area can produce so much coyote than a open ground area with field, farms...?

[trappnman]

No.

For 2 reasons. #1 is that timber just doesn't provide the food sources needed. Timber is really pretty barren country insofar as small game. Squirrels, a few mice maybe, some bunnies - but not enough to substain large numbers of canines, esp during pup rearing times.

the 2nd reason is related- and that is that there is seldom in timber areas anything to concentrate coyotes. Thier movements are more random, and they might have much larger ranges, meaning they don't come around as often.
Having said this- in my area, and I'd assume others- with the deep snows and winter, they will concentrate in timber areas simply becasue of the lack of cover, and food in the fields, etc.

I personally feel timber is the hardest to get any numbers on.

[RdFx]

In my area that i trap is mostly farm land interspersed with large timber areas. I found over the years the round about for yotes is anywhere from two to three weeks before returning. Depending on the locations my stops are five or more miles apart unless im working both sides of a large river or town. When trapping North Dakota it was a completely differant situation.

[oursnorb]

I ask this question because, many years ago, I started trap with a friend a large timber area(100 sq km) and I was surprise how many coyotes they haved in this area, in autumn, before snow.

[trappnman]

Coyotes are much more homebodies here. but my trapping areas are far mroe fields, than woods. Lots of wooded areas, but strips and except for coulees and hillsides, not a lot of continous woods.

so oursnob- what was the food source, that concentrated those coyotes in your scenario? Also, what made yo ucome to the conclusion that there was a large population in that timber?

Now if yo uare talking heavily farmed areas next to big timber, and harvest eliminated al lthe cover, then I could see a concentration- IF the food was there.

[northof50]

Oursnorb please put your location (province) in your profile, it help us understand some of where we come from.

Your timber and field conditions is a lot different from what these are use to.
Your coyotes are like Scottish sheep on payday, they are nervous and leave the fields and head for the timber in the day time.
Come Feb your deer herd in yards so you should find their entry trails, and have pee post there under some overhanging balsams.
Are you allowed Ram powersnares there, then duck and dive you should have some snaring areas and avoid the deer.
Good luck ...I'm ratting the next two weeks

[oursnorb]

Maybe with the hunting moose and so many bellys in the forest, the coyotes are more concentred. The others food sources are maybe mouses, bunnys..(bigs timber slash here).

[trappnman]

maybe, but gut piles go quick so aren't a reliable food source.

but if they are there, they are there. I guess if me, in big timber, I'd bait it up all season with butcher scraps, dead deer, etc

[oursnorb]

Yes, bait piles give goods results.

[northof50]

They return to moose gut piles months after the fact when everything is gone. Gota sniff with who is around would be my guess.

[trappnman]

They will but not in enough concentrations to matter. Nor do they stick around long. I've see dead piles with all removed continue to be a focal point for years. It still all comes down to food resources as to where time is spent

[bblwi]

My thoughts on this is that it may depend a lot on the type of timber areas you have. If you have large blocks of mature forest with little ground cover and significant numbers of trees like black spruce etc. you are not going to have the prey and cover for prey like you would in a mixed deciduous, lesser evergreen forest that has been manged and timber harvested to expose a lot of canopy etc. that proves a lot of food and cover for rabbits, grouse, deer and a lot of ground nesting fowl.

Bryce