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Post by PamIsMe on Aug 7, 2016 2:03:33 GMT -6
It's official, the millennials have passed the baby boomer generation in numbers The millennial generation includes anyone who was 18 to 34 years old in 2015. millennials"The term “millennial” comes with many connotations. They like socialism. They don’t eat breakfast cereal. They save more money than previous generations. They enjoy a work-life balance, and they often don’t think they’re millennials. Now, they’re the largest living generation in the United States." So, shouldn't their contributions be enough to fund social security and medicare for the foreseeable future, at least until they all get old in 40 years and start retiring? And if the Democrats can get them to start voting, lots of changes will be coming :-) Better be extra nice to your kids and grandkids!
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Post by James on Aug 7, 2016 3:41:58 GMT -6
Great, this means there will be more breakfast cereal for us old codgers!
Jim
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Post by musher on Aug 7, 2016 4:11:25 GMT -6
It's official, the millennials have passed the baby boomer generation in numbers And if the Democrats can get them to start voting, lots of changes will be coming :-) You are assuming that they would vote Democrat. That may not be the case. The "me, myself, and I" generation can be fickle. They might just vote for the flavour of the week. One thing that has surprised me is how anti-union many of them are. If they can get all of the pie, they will. Sharing isn't one of their attributes.
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Post by James on Aug 7, 2016 5:58:11 GMT -6
"If they can get all of the pie, they will. Sharing isn't one of their attributes."
Sharing isn't much in evidence among the wealthy class in general or among us baby boomers either.
Jim
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Post by musher on Aug 7, 2016 12:09:16 GMT -6
"If they can get all of the pie, they will. Sharing isn't one of their attributes." Sharing isn't much in evidence among the wealthy class in general or among us baby boomers either. Jim Sharing isn't ever in evidence by the wealthy. That is why they are wealthy. I tend to disagree about the boomers. In Canada, publicly funded hospitals, education, unemployment insurance, and all the rest was boomer created. Granted, we borrowed to do it, but it's the thought that counts! Just look at volunteering. It was a fact that you would volunteer for something in your community. Church, hospital, school, scouts, hockey .... SOMETHING. You gave of your time to help. Not any more. Parents won't even show up to get their children's report cards.
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Post by bblwi on Aug 7, 2016 13:06:43 GMT -6
Millennials may just decide to change the political structure and either morph one of the two current leading parties or go and create their own. They have the time, the communication skills (text and internet are low cost) and they use and abuse technology so they can stay connected in a disconnected way. If they would start talking with the boomers or say about half of the boomers who are far more socialistic then the generations older than the boomers and many GenXers they could build a formidable political force with numbers, technology and boomer wisdom and monies. I have been talking with many of my boomer peers and their careers or life styles the most common comments were not conservative, liberal or left, right or good and bad is that in a country with 310 million citizens and a host of political leaders nationwide these are the "Best" two candidates that we can field? To me that may well be the direction argument the 70% may be addressing in a less aggressive manor. To many of them it is not that this country is hopeless or unsafe or losing the basics of what we as citizens stand for, they feel the process to become even selected to be a front running leader needs a lot of rework. Over time the continued electing of leaders who are not respected does change the nature of our social fiber just like Watergate did in the 1970s. For many in the USA the credibility of institutions be they public or private was lowered by that event and the process and has never really recovered. The Millennials may well be the big generation that will be able to move past all that garbage and start trusting their peers and institutions more. Being socialistic does not mean being more on the dole it means trusting in working with others for a collective common good. There are millions of older generations that look at socialism as Communism and it thwarts growth, creativity and even being patriotic. That is a very narrow view of socialism and one fostered by those who feel isolationism and other Neo Con aspects and the younger generation does not buy into that model of socialism that many want to sell. What becomes very obvious and a truth for millions of the youth in our nation is that the Neo Cons and the far right just hammer on the fact that we are a really socialistic nation and society and going down hill fast while the number shows that the vast majority of the wealth and income go to a tiny minority. What they can see through is how can that be socialism when you have a culture working like a developing nation in central Africa with a military coup or dictatorship. Many might poo-poo the young but I don't feel it is wise for us to dismiss them as unable to create the culture they prefer.
Bryce
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Post by PamIsMe on Aug 7, 2016 23:41:13 GMT -6
"One thing that has surprised me is how anti-union many of them are." Interesting observation, I don't get that feeling at all. "What Millennials Really Think about Unions (You'll Be Surprised)" www.aflcio.org/Blog/Other-News/What-Millennials-Really-Think-about-Unions-You-ll-Be-Surprised"Millennials, born between the early 1980s and the early 2000s, hold a much more favorable view of labor unions than older generations, but they are the least likely age group to be in unions. Sankin asks, if 61% of respondents aged 18 to 29 surveyed earlier this year hold a favorable view of labor unions, why aren’t they part of the labor movement? Unfortunately, many young workers don’t have the option to join a traditional union. As the American economy has become largely post-industrial, he notes, fewer private-sector industries are unionized. I would add that restrictive labor law, a difficult organizing process and widespread employer intimidation make it difficult for new groups of workers to form collective bargaining units. Given the shrinking levels of unionization and the rising intensity of political attacks on collective bargaining rights, both public and private workers are less likely to be unionized than in previous generations." Can Millennials Save Unions? www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/09/millennials-unions/401918/Pam
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Post by bblwi on Aug 8, 2016 17:01:57 GMT -6
Many older citizens tie socialism to unionism and consider those bad things. The younger generations do not have a union base to spring from and thus as they are more ethnic and gender tolerant and willing to share their type of socialism will be much different than what many perceive socialism to be like. With strong unions the employers laid out their rules, the union laid out theirs and a set of rules were created by how work got done. Now that 100s of millions don't have any set of rules onhow to conduct themselves at work or a labor group to advise them they just make the decision that best suits them and they are doing so more assertively than in the past. With more of them renting then owning now due to high down payments and less desire to be held in place by a burdensome home and many firms now making health care insurance a costly benefit they can and do much more easily say screw and walk away. In a service based economy instead of a physical hard work manufacturing, farming and construction and they know they can work longer into their lives and if they have 10-15 work places to work until they are 75 or so well that is workable. What they will ask employers to do is make sure they have the needed flexibility so they can relax and spend family time while they work for 50 or so years.
Bryce
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