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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Apr 20, 2016 16:23:51 GMT -6
United health is pulling out of states after loosing 625 million in Obama care. The cost need to rise for premiums and more will have to follow suit. Obama's promises of lower cost and more choices are not comming to fruition, the opposite is happening due to the under writing of many that are high risk. Yet we maintain that a socialist program could and would work at a cost that would be affordable for all? How unlikely does that seem? Very I feel. thehill.com/policy/healthcare/276787-unitedhealth-pulling-out-of-most-obamacare-marketsThe problem is be it socialized medicine or Obama care the clinics and hospitals have to run at some profit or otherwise they will do the same as health care providers and start to close their doors, leaving people with less choices and less care options. In order for socialized medicine to work in this country our taxation rate would be very high,very high. Even when do pairing to other countries to run this out of control govt train and add in souclaized health care and college would mean tax rates all told above 60 percent for many, are Americans willing to give 60,000 out of every 100,000 they make or more in the coming years? The talk of progressives running for president is more federal programs and more spending on those already enacted, plus add in 20 trillion in debt and rising? Wow scary times ahead for sure if we elect yet another Liberial mind set.
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Post by bblwi on Apr 20, 2016 21:43:55 GMT -6
If the insurance company lost that much money where did the increased cost monies go? If all that is going to the government over time there will be funds available for health care cause you state the private providers are or will lose monies and thus it seems that all the increased costs are monies that are going some where other than into services or basic protective insurance. That revenue should be showing up as a surplus somewhere and I would be interested to know where that would be.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Apr 23, 2016 7:29:06 GMT -6
Bryce they loose money on the Obama care contracts and make it on others. The end result is a loss on underwriting the Obama care policies across the board. It has happened in various states and companies decided to pull out. The question will be how many more will do so in the future?
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Post by bblwi on Apr 23, 2016 11:55:13 GMT -6
Yes and almost all of us realized that with a slow roll out and major changes that losses would occur and especially when those providers wanted to continue to sell product and provide as they did in the past with the systems that were going to be engulfed in major change while the process was taking place. If the big majors want out or will get out we may have opportunities for a major decentralization of HC insurers and providers which may be a good thing in the long run. It is not always the government's fault that private sector firms can't be profitable. Some and more than some in many cases are poorly run and managed.
Bryce
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Post by trappnman on Apr 24, 2016 6:08:27 GMT -6
TC- if you want to sound like you know what is going on, then you MUST read further than just the headline.
1) United came to the table last
2) as such, they got the most "uninsured" ie the ones with real health care problems (do I need to elaborate or do you get this?)
3)United is the SMALLEST insurer under the program
and just for the record, since it will be like the roof to you: the biggest problem with HC, is it is NOT a single payer system
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