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Post by Gerald Schmitt on Feb 29, 2016 16:43:54 GMT -6
Not a Sanders fan, but the deck is stacked against him. I'd be very upset with the Democratic party leadership if I was a Sanders supporter.
In a Feb. 11 interview, Wasserman Schultz openly admitted that the Democratic Party’s superdelegate system, which consists of unelected party elites who have a large influence on the primary election, exists in order to ensure establishment candidates don’t have to run “against grassroots activists.”
CNN host Jake Tapper asked the DNC chair, “What do you tell voters who are new to the process who say this makes them feel like it’s all rigged?”
“Unpledged delegates exist really to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don’t have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists,” Wasserman Schultz explained.
Right or wrong, Trump is appealing to voters who feel that Democrats and Republicans have not been addressing issues that they feel are important, like immigration. You have both parties ridiculing folks who only ask that our nation's immigration laws be enforced. Immigration was a non issue until Trump brought it front and center. Both parties have had years to address this issue and have done nothing.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 29, 2016 18:24:28 GMT -6
You site a bunch of left wing so called data, I am using the govt data, I could careless by number of followers, it is about the information and who has it and who does not. Your source is a left winged guy, that has no degree in economics and is more about politics than economics. Look at where is and what he does for a living, really nothing to do with economics at all.
Bryce I clearly stated some schools do better than others with the money.
I want the truth not some left winged Mumbo jumbo, it is clear to see and I could give you another 10 sources who thinks Reich clearly knows little to nothing about economics and what he has stated is clearly false. You seem to use Bias as factual. LOL. I made a point to use someone who is left of center and still tells you Reich is a joke and numbers from the federal govt to back up the information provided, not just words from someone who wants more min wage.
You never stated where small business would get the extra 47 percent increase in wages paid out Or where in which the higher taxation would come from either? Neither has your source Mr Reich, he has an opinion nothing more period.Hence his F rating by someone with 40 years in economics and using govt data. As do my other sources.
Give me 5 major big companies you know for a fact that pay minimum wage? All I ask for is 5 , as your source clearly states their are plenty of large business paying min wage who can afford more due to fat profits.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 29, 2016 18:31:01 GMT -6
Again I am for anyone who can beat Hillary the liar. Anyone of them running from the center and right is going to be far better than Hillary.
Gerald hit it right on with Trump he will garner plenty of votes because people are fed up with the party lines as we know them and have for 20 years.
Trump could be the next Jessie the body Ventura. People fed up and picked the most unlikely person change just for the sake of such.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 29, 2016 18:39:09 GMT -6
Sorry Tman once again your sources theories are off base. You stated those states with higher min wages have lower unemployment. This again from a non biased source clearly states that is false. Again look up the top 10 states for higher min wage and what their unemployment rates are today. Clearly not the case you state at all. Topics: Minimum Wage Why is it that Washington state’s entry-level job applicants faced one of the highest rates of unemployment in the nation this year? The state’s unemployment rate is 15 percent higher than the national average and 42 percent higher than it was five years ago when the state introduced a minimum wage higher than the federal minimum. Washington state is not alone in experiencing this perpetual high state unemployment. Oregon, Washington and Alaska are among the five states with the highest unemployment rates. It is perhaps no coincidence that these three states have the highest state minimum wages in the nation. Decades of research confirm Nobel Prize-winning economist Gary Becker’s observation: “A higher minimum will further reduce the employment opportunities of workers with few skills.” Despite Washington state’s relentless high unemployment, the state’s minimum wage is set to rise for the fifth time in as many years on Jan.1, making it 39 percent higher than the federal minimum – the highest minimum wage in the nation. This job-killing increase is built into the system, thanks to a ballot initiative that increases the state’s minimum wage regardless of job market conditions. In many parts of the state, the jobs situation is worse than the headline statewide rate would have you believe. No fewer than 16 Washington cities and counties with a population of at least 10,000 posted an unemployment rate of between 9 percent and more than 14 percent last year. These areas include Lakewood city, where the unemployment rate was 10.9 percent; Longview city, where it was 11.3 percent, and Klickitat County, which had an unemployment rate of 14.3 percent. More than 1.2 million people now live in these high unemployment areas with unemployment rates that have not been experienced nationwide since the recession of the early ’80s. Those who initiated this ill-advised indexing proposal may believe that the latest minimum wage increase will help those workers who have managed to hold on to a minimum-wage job in difficult economic times. Hard evidence suggests a reality where the increase will deprive many vulnerable employees of the only opportunity they have to earn a living and increase their wages. Research at Michigan State University found that increases in the minimum wage attract more highly skilled applicants to traditionally low-skill jobs. The study’s author, David Neumark, concluded: “Increases in the minimum wage raise the probability that more-skilled teenagers leave school and displace lower-skilled workers from their jobs.” Employers prefer to hire talented young people over less-skilled adults to offset the increased labor costs brought on by a minimum wage increase. Another study, from the University of Wisconsin, revealed that this displacement of adults by teenagers following a minimum-wage increase was especially pronounced among women on welfare. “Mothers on welfare in states that raised their minimum wage left welfare for work 20 percent less than welfare recipients in states where the minimum wage was not raised,” the study’s author, Peter Brandon, found. The teenagers who are competing with these women usually live with working parents and their need for employment is arguably not as great. Even wage-increase proponents acknowledge this displacement effect. Wage mandate activist and union organizer David Reynolds says that high minimum wages cause businesses to “attract and retain the best workers” – who take the jobs of the less skilled. The union-backed Economic Policy Institute has admitted that higher minimum wages “will attract good workers” – meaning less-skilled workers need not apply. Yet while less-skilled workers do not benefit from a minimum-wage increase, academic research demonstrates they can get a raise without one. Economists at Miami University of Ohio and Florida State University found 65 percent of minimum-wage workers increase their wage between one and 12 months on the job. This refutes the outdated notion of minimum-wage workers perpetually dependent on government to get a raise. More than undermining their prospects for employment, raising the minimum wage imperils an important benefit that helps less-skilled workers escape poverty. The federal earned-income tax credit is a successful anti-poverty program that supplements the income of the working poor. But it disappears the moment employees lose their job, forcing the least skilled among us to depend on welfare for as long as those benefits last. Exchanging the ability to provide for oneself with welfare checks has unfortunate consequences that reach far beyond the newly unemployed person’s pocketbook. Research by Casey Mulligan of the University of Chicago found that for every extra year a mother spent on welfare, her child spent an additional 274 days on welfare as an adult. Sad to say, raising the minimum wage not only harms the job prospects of those whose alternative is welfare but also their ability to pass a strong work ethic onto their children. For Washington state’s most vulnerable workers, many of whom have remained in depressed localities after business and industry have left the area, raising the minimum wage will deprive them of the jobs, training and increased earnings they so obviously need. This is surely not what supporters of indexing the state minimum wage intended. Craig Garthwaite is chief economist at the Employment Policies Institute, a non-profit research organization that studies issues relating to entry-level employment; www.EPIonline.org
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 29, 2016 18:39:41 GMT -6
My source was listed as one of the top 40 professors under the age of 40 as well at the time of this writing.
Washington DC has the highest min wage rate and also sits a few points above the national avg for unemployment as well. So again no facts to back the claim.
Conn 9.60 Unemployment rate 6.3 national avg 5.4
California 10.00. 5.9 still above national avg
Mass 10.00 4.7 percent yep finally one lower than the national avg, yet can we state because of min wage? Nope because it was just enacted Jan 1 2016 and these numbers are from Dec which actually showed. .1 increase in unemployment over prior months. So the newly placed 10.00 is still an unknown.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 29, 2016 18:58:24 GMT -6
Yet even 10.10 is still a far cry from Bernies 15.00 so the data clearly shows that 1500 would be a job killer for the less skilled workforce and keep people on welfare longer yet ,we can pay for that increase of welfare though because of the increased taxes taken in on the new min wage of 15.00. Sorry not buying that bridge, again Bernie has no shot, it you stating min wage as a boon for the common man is far from the facts.
10.10 over a period of a few years should be do able, but as I maintain it will still involve the sliding scale of poverty so the only thing that changes is the number, no real buying power or job growth increase, and the govt putting yet another mandate on the people.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 29, 2016 19:03:36 GMT -6
Notice the sub 3 percent states and look up what they have for minimum wage. You will find many sit at 7.25 and a few have added new in 2016 SD being one so the real test will come in another year to see where these numbers go up or down for those that just added an increase in 2016.
December 2015 State Unemployment Rates * State Rate State Rate Alabama 6.2 Montana 4.0 Alaska 6.5 Nebraska 2.9 Arizona 5.8 Nevada 6.4 Arkansas 4.8 New Hampshire 3.1 California 5.8 New Jersey 5.1 Colorado 3.5 New Mexico 6.7 Connecticut 5.2 New York 4.8 Delaware 5.0 North Carolina 5.6 D.C. 6.6 North Dakota 2.7 Florida 5.0 Ohio 4.7 Georgia 5.5 Oklahoma 4.1 Hawaii 3.2 Oregon 5.4 Idaho 3.9 Pennsylvania 4.8 Illinois 5.9 Puerto Rico 12.2 Indiana 4.4 Rhode Island 5.1 Iowa 3.4 South Carolina 5.5 Kansas 3.9 South Dakota 2.9 Kentucky 5.3 Tennessee 5.6 Louisiana 6.1 Texas 4.7 Maine 4.0 Utah 3.5 Maryland 5.1 Vermont 3.6 Massachusetts 4.7 Virginia 4.2 Michigan 5.1 Washington 5.5 Minnesota 3.5 West Virginia 6.3 Mississippi 6.4 Wisconsin 4.3 Missouri 4.4 Wyoming 4.3 Source: U.S. Dept. of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) * Preliminary figures from BLS.
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Post by bblwi on Feb 29, 2016 20:50:44 GMT -6
Minimum wage is not the issue in those 3 low states. With limited infrastructure, housing etc. there is no place to live unless you work and as soon as the work drops off people leave. People are leaving ND pretty fast at this time and how many there were working at or near a minimum rate?
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Mar 1, 2016 6:12:35 GMT -6
Not many working for min in ND, the reason they are leaving is cyclic Bryce oils up and down and when it is at a cost of profit making then are there. Yet still they pay far more than minimum wage. The market makes it so. Housing is right because they know the nature of oil this is not the first rodeo of ND and oil. If oil was fixed at a certain rate the issues you mentioned would be dealt with no problem. That type of work is not the norm. Refining is different than extraction go to Mandan,ND just west of Bismark they have a massive refinery that stays far more consistent, housing and infrastructure is not an issue at all there. Right next to the interstate and nice homes around the area.
Tmans statement from his sources was states with higher min wage had lower unemployment, simply not factual over the course of time. The reasons as why it is not factual was given with hard data.
I agree min wage is not the issue in those states but those states aren't at 10.00-15.00 per hour min wage,as they do not have to be, because of low unemployment the market sees to it that they make far more than the 7 and change.
ND will be back, oil will not stay at 33.00 a barrel,once it hits above 50.00 Dickinson will be jammed packed once again.
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Post by trappnman on Mar 1, 2016 8:39:19 GMT -6
when I saw you once again didn't have the cajones to name a candidate you support BY NAME, I skipped reading all the posts you made.
glancing at your post above this reply as I type- I can only say my data was not only backed up by govt data, but study after study by top name universities- if you don't believe that, I don't care. I remember when you claimed Obama wasn't a legitimate president, or the Iraq war was for WMD, so I understand your reluctance on facts, preferring innuendo and myth over them
Gerald- do agree- I hope he makes a good showing tonight, and then things turn to states that favor him.
Bryce- you will never convince TC on the facts-
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Post by bblwi on Mar 1, 2016 11:55:41 GMT -6
I know they are not working for minimum, that was not my point. The point is they are so far above a minimum rate that it doesn't apply. No one ever mentions how much those high starting wages and low employment impact the non energy businesses that typically stay in a location. Cyclic is the nature of many energy and commodity businesses that are typically the main source of work in the northern Rockies, Great plains areas. Agriculture, oil, mining and timber.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Mar 1, 2016 16:41:29 GMT -6
Funny Tman what you call facts are not such.
Fact never made the claim Obama was not legit from birth, Fact many where convinced about WMD's, still doesn't mean they where not there just hidden due to stupid UN, also lets us not forget Hillarys remarks on such at the time, I could post you a video clip.
Me naming a candidate has little to do with this topic, I know your ploy is to change gears instead of staying on topic. The facts are more TRUE economist with a degree and many years doing such and the data like the state of Washington shows your points are FACTUALLY off the mark take it or leave it.
Bryce the point is then what? The supply and demand in those areas are market indicators and as such the McDonalds up there was paying 1500 per hour with No got mandate at all, the market supported those wages.
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Post by bblwi on Mar 1, 2016 18:16:28 GMT -6
The point is that cyclic enterprises in many cases hurt or even destroy the stability of many economies, especially very homogenous economies that lack diversity and have a fairly high percentage of retired and elderly near by that pay the increased prices with low levels of income. Many areas of he Dakotas, especially the rural areas have higher than the nation's average of SSI dependent populations and they are much less mobile than the younger more mobile workforce age persons.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Mar 1, 2016 19:01:20 GMT -6
What? Both North Dakota and South Dakota are far more than oil. Look at Sioux Falls and the population increase since the early 90's. The building has never stopped at all in this town, it is crazy and has been since the early 90's. South Dakota brings in a lot of money from tourism in many forms. North Dakota not much different, both are still AG dependent states but has no real bearing on the elderly.
Increase prices? Where? In the oil boom area? That is a small part of either state. Over all property taxes cheaper than avg, SD no state income tax, much lower sales tax than many other states, far lower vehicle registration than most other states, ND has a very low state income tax.
I pay far more in taxes here in Missouri than I did in South Dakota . Not to mention South and North Dakota has no personnel property taxes like ai pay here. In fact for a retired person the Dakotas are far better off than the state of Missouri or Iowa as far as taxation goes.
South Dakota ranks 16th In property tax, North Dakoata ranks 21st and Wyoming is 44th. Plus those numbers show outside of the major metro cities in these lower population states housing is far cheaper than many other states.
Iowa vehicle registrations are 300-500 plus on a new vehicle , South Dakota less than 50.00. Here in Missouri I pay 349.00 on a 2008 pickup. Sales tax much higher here by 5 percent and some areas even more. Here I pay into the state of Missouri around 1,000 in state income tax, not to mention personnel property tax and property tax and higher vehicle registration, the need for vehicle inspections every other year, high sales tax on vehicle purchases, groceries really no cheaper and all food is taxed here . Internet cost me more here than SD.
Your getting more bang for your buck in the Dakotas than many other Midwestern states, so you can look at it as Lower wages go further their overall. In all reality you can make more per hour on avg in South Dakota than in the state of Missouri. Why? Because of the low unemployment rate and geographic location. That is a fact.
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Post by trappnman on Mar 2, 2016 6:50:51 GMT -6
still no endorsement
why so afraid?
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Post by bblwi on Mar 2, 2016 10:48:36 GMT -6
I meant Ag as well as a cyclic economy. SD and ND are two of the states most dependent upon USDA Farm bill payments as part of their income. I never discussed issues with a person that was so narrowly focused and had to have everything laid out as there was no desire to expand the thought process. Property taxes don't reflect wages and earnings and especially so in states that choose not to tax heavily if at all.
Bryce
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Post by bblwi on Mar 2, 2016 10:52:56 GMT -6
If the Dakotas are so great why are there only about 2-3 million living in both states combined? They have to offer low to no taxes etc. just to get some ingress of population. At least the Dutch have found dairy farming in the eastern portion very productive but don't like the solitude either as they are very used to more diverse and congested lifestyles.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Mar 3, 2016 6:24:02 GMT -6
Bryce how do cattle ranchers get serviced by the farm bill? Half of the state has little to no crops. Last I knew NO price supports on cattle or hay that makes up an entire state pretty much when you look at the western sides of both ND and SD.
Funny we where just talking about retired people and on the news last night SD and Colorado rank as 2 of the top 3 states for retirement LOL.
Property taxes do effect all people and specially retired you can have house paid for but you still pay property taxes each year in some states by the 1,000's that takes a bite out of SS and retirement money. You can me Mobil and go to areas with less taxation over all leaving a retired person more of their nest egg, to do other things with.
The Dakotas are great and many great doctors have flocked to Sioux Falls less taxation than many other states for those making 180,000 plus and also those who like outdoor lifestyles, Sioux Falls offers things like a much bigger city and they seem to like it a lot. The reason not many people the western sides of the Dakotas are range country and also add in the temps and annual snow totals keeps many away. Not a job or taxation thing by any means.
Ever been to Sioux Falls, Rapid City, Bismark or Fargo? They have lots going on in these larger cities.
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Post by trappnman on Mar 3, 2016 13:01:03 GMT -6
still no endorsement? wow
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Post by bblwi on Mar 3, 2016 15:42:37 GMT -6
You know little to nothing about the Agriculture crops in those states as SD is now 7th largest corn producing state in the nation. ND has millions of acres of high value crops that utilize subsidized crop insurance for their protection. Cattle ranchers indirectly get lots of benefits from the ag program as they are established to try and hold the cost of crops low as possible. If you doubt the statistics Google state net income due to USDA payments. SD and ND also receive some of the largest payments for CRP land. I recognize that is not all bad but still a subsidy and many times to very wealthy individuals and or absentee land owners.
Bryce
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