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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 23, 2016 20:42:34 GMT -6
interesting artical on Bernie the socialist?
Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders said Monday his parents would never have thought their son would end up in the Senate and running for president. No kidding. He was a ne’er-do-well into his late 30s.
“It’s certainly something that I don’t think they ever believed would’ve happened,” the unabashed socialist remarked during CNN’s Democratic town hall forum, as polls show him taking the lead in Iowa and New Hampshire.
He explained his family couldn’t imagine his “success,” because “my brother and I and Mom and Dad grew up in a three-and-a-half-room rent-controlled apartment in Brooklyn, and we never had a whole lot of money.”
It wasn’t as bad as he says. His family managed to send him to the University of Chicago. Despite a prestigious degree, however, Sanders failed to earn a living, even as an adult. It took him 40 years to collect his first steady paycheck — and it was a government check.
“I never had any money my entire life,” Sanders told Vermont public TV in 1985, after settling into his first real job as mayor of Burlington.
Sanders spent most of his life as an angry radical and agitator who never accomplished much of anything. And yet now he thinks he deserves the power to run your life and your finances — “We will raise taxes;” he confirmed Monday, “yes, we will.”
One of his first jobs was registering people for food stamps, and it was all downhill from there.
Sanders took his first bride to live in a maple sugar shack with a dirt floor, and she soon left him. Penniless, he went on unemployment. Then he had a child out of wedlock. Desperate, he tried carpentry but could barely sink a nail. “He was a shi**y carpenter,” a friend told Politico Magazine. “His carpentry was not going to support him, and didn’t.”
Then he tried his hand freelancing for leftist rags, writing about “masturbation and rape” and other crudities for $50 a story. He drove around in a rusted-out, Bondo-covered VW bug with no working windshield wipers. Friends said he was “always poor” and his “electricity was turned off a lot.” They described him as a slob who kept a messy apartment — and this is what his friends had to say about him.
The only thing he was good at was talking … non-stop … about socialism and how the rich were ripping everybody off. “The whole quality of life in America is based on greed,” the bitter layabout said. “I believe in the redistribution of wealth in this nation.”
So he tried politics, starting his own socialist party. Four times he ran for Vermont public office, and four times he lost — badly. He never attracted more than single-digit support — even in the People’s Republic of Vermont. In his 1971 bid for U.S. Senate, the local press said the 30-year-old “Sanders describes himself as a carpenter who has worked with ‘disturbed children.’ ” In other words, a real winner.
He finally wormed his way into the Senate in 2006, where he still ranks as one of the poorest members of Congress. Save for a municipal pension, Sanders lists no assets in his name. All the assets provided in his financial disclosure form are his second wife’s. He does, however, have as much as $65,000 in credit-card debt.
Sure, Sanders may not be a hypocrite, but this is nothing to brag about. His worthless background contrasts sharply with the successful careers of other “outsiders” in the race for the White House, including a billionaire developer, a world-renowned neurosurgeon and a Fortune 500 CEO.
The choice in this election is shaping up to be a very clear one. It will likely boil down to a battle between those who create and produce wealth, and those who take it and redistribute it
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 23, 2016 20:44:34 GMT -6
20 trillion in debt and his plan will help with the ever rising debt how?
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Post by bblwi on Feb 23, 2016 22:05:58 GMT -6
Bernie will never be elected so I don't worry about his plan for our national debt. I do however worry significantly about the lack of discussion and the unwillingness of those that have more likelihood of being elected not addressing the issue at for the most part. I guess the main things we can learn regarding Trump and Sanders large followings are many feel that any course we take is better than where are at the current time. To me that is unfortunate because problems of government are most likely resolved by those that have experience in working to improve government.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 24, 2016 6:06:34 GMT -6
Bryce who has experience trying to improve government? What experience did or does our 2 term president have at such? When was the last president to improve govt as you state?
20 trillion in debt and counting, where will it end and stop? More social programs and taxing the upper 3 percent will not take away this kind of debt. Nor will income redistribution either.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 24, 2016 9:16:18 GMT -6
I will caucus for Bernie on March 1st- and I'll vote for him in a minute if he is the nominee
I just wish those wanting to discuss the issue, would do so ith at least a fact or two.
for example- during one of our most prosperous era- the "rich" were taxed at 92% of income- and the country prospered.
Today- the rich brag, like Romney, of only paying around 11%
50 years ago, the middle class owned most of the wealth- today the top 1% owns 90% of the new income
distribution of wealth- Good God you'all- what do you think has been happening over the past years? THINK
Loris 401 goes up and down and up and down and at the end- take Jan- down 500 points one day, up 300 the end, bouncing up and down- end of month, the 401 was the same- yet BILLIONS of dollars were made by Wall Street during that month. Re-distribute income? Damn right- the ones benefiting from all this, are the ones that bought and paid to have that rulebook.
we got money to pay to have Gitmo open- to the tune of $450 million a year- to house 91 prisoners, soon to be down to 50- and the republicans are against closing it? Yet, they have no money for veterans
don't want to fund planned parenthood because "they don't want to pay for abortions"? Well get your head out of....the sky....and understand there is ZERO government fundingfor abortions-
does anyone in the GOP have any sense of logic and fact? It appears not-
So you damn right I support Bernie- and calling him a bum is being a 1st grader, IMNSFHO
meanwhile- Trump double his expectations in Nevada- earning more votes than Cruz and Rubio combined- he IS going to be the GOP nominee
and THAT is going to guarantee that the democratic nominee gets elected- unless Trump can do it without the Hispanic vote, without the womens vote, without the Black vote, and without the under 30 vote.
so if you want to debate specific issues- bring your facts (sorry, opinionated selfserving blogs not accepted) and as BK said "I'm your huckleberry!"
PS- Obama has reduced the deficit while in office and insofar as the debt- well brother, that's the price for starting two long enduring wars without ANY plan to pay for them, besides borrowing the money. Thanks George! Cause those TWO WARS are the reason for our debt size
facts man, facts- so often overlooked but so, so important
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Post by bblwi on Feb 24, 2016 11:43:32 GMT -6
Well to me if you are that negative about government and governing why all the political posts? If it is a lost cause in your mind why not just let it go and let others step up and work to make what we feel may be improvements. Government has been complained about ridiculed, bashed and looked down upon since 1789 and it is still here and with the states, and local governments we have today bigger and more expansive than ever, so get used to the fact that it will be here and you can choose to hold your negative ideals or you can work to make improvements. To my way of thinking we have had several politicians who have worked very hard to make a difference in our lives and government. For all the faults and lack of policy changes Obama has not made or accomplished he has brought to the forefront some realities of who we are as a society and why our government has not worked well as of late. Our latent racism has come to the forefront, our intolerance of other nations, religions and creeds shows up quite quickly, our inability to understand that as the rest of the world gains education and income we will not be the focus for future markets or centers of education or even wealth. It is not something other nations are taking from us it is what we are very willing to let go because we here are really quite FDL and UE Fat, dumb, lazy and quickly becoming uneducated. So as we are led by a post world war 11 mindset of we are number 1 and always will be and raising about 100 million youth that are on a worldwide basis just trying to find a job and becoming illiterate we are moving just where the rest of the world knows we are very comfortable in going.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 24, 2016 16:37:36 GMT -6
Tman your worrying about your wife's 401K and thr measly shares and investments of her portfolio and trying to compare that to all of Wall Street? LOL
So your angry your wife's moves with the markets in a very unstable period of years in our nation? Change investments talk to the company who she has her investments with and make changes, to stay on top one must do this because of where our economy has been and is, 20 trillion in debt and you telling me oBama has lessened the debt? 90 percent of home loans backed by the federal govt, what have we learned from fanny and Freddie?
Sounds to me like all socialist should go move to an Indian reservation, after all these are the largest social experiments in the US, guess what? They have not worked and will not work period. We can't all sit by the mailbox waiting for the federal check to hit each month.
Billions spent with no return on the investment, no work ethic, their schools are in the tank, drug and alcohol abuse is rampant and so is the highest rates of suicide in the nation.
1 percent owning 90 percent of the wealth LOL. Do you realize that Americans own 46 percent of the countries wealth? Do you relies no other country on this earth gets even remotely close to that 46 percent owned by private people? Do you realize with socialism you will not have any amassed wealth, but just enough to get by and a few bucks extra? The taxation at 92 percent? Wow, that will not be good for this country to say different is a pipe dream. Just like Bernie wanting to make min wage 15 we can do that everything will go up in price based off that increase but hey at least we can use the word 15 bucks and hour. LOL.
Zero govt funding for abortions? Who pays for those without money to get one then? Come on, is this straight off mother jones website?
Obama was going to pull us out of all wars and fast remember his first election banter? Trying to blame someone from 8 years ago on a debt that has now gone to almost 20 trillion, nice ploy. Obama had nothing to do with adding to the debt all Bush's fault and the evil empire the republicans. We have more people on federal Assitance than any other time in our countries history that is a fact! Allowing people 2-3 years on unemployment versus working not good either, robbing Peter to pay lazy Paul will never be a recipe for success in a free market country.
I heard the blob on Facebook, the lazy guy stated, the rich splurge and by a boat, me I splurge and order an appetizer out. My question would be then work harder and not sit on your butt for 4 months each year collecting unemployment, that is your choice to do such, I happen to know the guy who painted such and I know he loves to ride the unemployment all winter so he can drink, party and have a good time. Can't have your cake and eat it too, then complain because because some with a better work ethic out perform you.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 24, 2016 16:39:38 GMT -6
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 24, 2016 16:42:02 GMT -6
Real facts across the US Tman
Are you in the American middle class? Find out with our income calculator BY RICHARD FRY AND RAKESH KOCHHAR113 COMMENTS
About half of American adults – 120.8 million out of 242.1 million – live in middle-income households as of early 2015, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of government data. In percentage terms, 50% of adults now live in middle-income households, 29% in lower-income households, and 21% in upper-income households.
Our new calculator below lets you find out which group you are in – first compared with all American adults and then compared with other adults similar to you in education, age, race or ethnicity, and marital status:
A Pew Research Center analysis of government data shows that after more than four decades of serving as the nation's economic majority, the U.S. middle class is now matched in size by those in the economic tiers above and below it.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 24, 2016 16:43:47 GMT -6
Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton and the rest of the Democratic leadership are constantly complaining that college education costs too much. What they never bother to explain, however, is why.
Two economists set out to do so, and Bernie and company will not like what they found.
Grey Gordon and Aaron Hedlund, economists at Indiana University and the University of Missouri, developed a method to test various explanations for the share rise in tuition costs. Is it state funding cuts? Or the increased wage premium for a college degree? Or is it related to general cost increases in the services industries?
Not exactly. In a working paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research the economists report that these factors contributed insignificantly to the rapid rise in tuition between 1987 and 2010.
What did account for almost all of it was, ironically enough, the massive explosion in federal aid over the past several decades. Federal aid — in the form of subsidized loans, grants and tax credits — shot up 134% in the past 15 years, according to the College Board. It’s climbed 22% just under President Obama.
Combined with state aid, the government is pouring more than $239 billion a year into programs designed to make college less expensive.
What the authors found is that all this aid money has simply let college administrators spend more and jack up tuition to pay for it, without hurting enrollment. The result is there to see for anyone who visits a college campus these days — gourmet kitchens, luxurious dorms, shiny new administrative buildings, beautiful landscapes, state of the art workout facilities, etc.
The authors call this the “Bennett hypothesis,” after former Education Secretary William Bennett, who wrote in 1987 that “increases in financial aid in recent years have enabled college and universities blithely to raise their tuitions.”
Not only does the increased federal aid lead to higher tuition, the authors found, but it perversely leads to “more debt, and in the absence of higher labor market returns, more loan default inevitably occurs.”
In other words, the Democrats’ plan to provide still greater amounts of federal aid will only make matters worse.
Of course, Bernie Sanders’ answer is to simply make public four-year college “free.” But as Andrew Kelly of the American Enterprise Institute points out, Sanders’ solution won’t make college any cheaper — it will just shift the costs to taxpayers — and it will almost certainly make it harder to enroll.
“Any influx of federal money may lead profligate administrators to spend even more,” he noted recently.
That’s provided colleges can successfully compete against the countless other items in the federal budget.
The more likely outcome, Kelly explains, will be shortages. Free college will greatly expand demand, while doing little or nothing to increase supply.
“And because middle and upper-income students will gobble up many of the free public slots, rationing will hurt those who need access the most,” he notes.
Clearly, then, the solution to fast-rising college costs is not to pour still more federal money into the system.
But who has time for such inconvenient truths when a presidential contender is waiving a banner saying “free stuff.”
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 24, 2016 16:52:53 GMT -6
celebrate the Monthly Labor Review’s centennial, the Bureau of Labor Statistics is taking a look back at the last 100 years. One of the articles in this series — “The life of American workers in 1915” — is eminently fascinating and shows in stark relief just how far we have come in America since then.
Life in the U.S. certainly was not nasty, brutish and short a century ago. But it was almost primitive relative to what we have in front of us today. And it’s the sort of crushing existence that socialism — yes, even Bernie Sanders’ “democratic” version of that poisonous system of government — would take us back to.
Don’t think so? Below is a glimpse of how things looked back then, according the article. Consider the contrasts with today’s life in America, and then rejoin us at the bottom of this post.
• “If you were alive in 1915, chances are you rented your house or apartment; the ratio of renters to homeowners was about 4-1 in 1920.”
• “The typical home of a working-class family was crowded, somewhat disorderly, and without modern conveniences.”
• A “family of nine has a boarder to help pay the rent. He is a night worker, and in the daytime can always be seen asleep in one of the beds. … There is a bath tub, but the clothes wringer and last winter’s sleds are always kept in it. This is not the home of a very poor family.”
• “Apparently, several children in the described family shared a bed, and the family members may have all shared the same bedroom. Few of the homes of working-class families had running water, and almost none had running hot water.”
• “Whether or not your abode was a single-family home or a crowded tenement, it probably was heated by a potbelly stove or by a coal furnace in the basement.”
gas or kerosene lamps.”
• “If your home had an indoor toilet, the toilet likely was located in a closet or a storage area. It would be a few more years until it was common for toilets, sinks, and bathtubs to share a room.”
• “If you didn’t work at home, you also may have traveled to your job by foot, or you may have gotten there on horseback or by mule.”
• “The predominant occupation group was that of craftsmen, laborers, and operatives, and professional and technical workers — today’s largest group — made up less than 5% of all workers.”
Things are quite different now, and none of the advances we enjoy — take for granted, even — has been brought to us by socialism, not even today’s better working conditions, for which the socialist labor movement takes credit. All have been the products of free-market capitalism. It is the lone system that has the structural incentive — the profit motive — that drives people to produce the advances we’ve seen.
Socialism has the exact opposite effect. It motivates people to live off of others, and requires coercion and force. That’s a plan for disaster, as any reading of the history of the last 100 years will show. It’s not coincidental that the Cubas, North Koreas, Venezuelas, Greeces of 2016 look a lot like the America of 1915.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 24, 2016 16:54:25 GMT -6
Facts
2016: Democratic front-runner Bernie Sanders says concerns about his honeymoon trip to the USSR in the ’80s are “silly.” He’ll have a harder time explaining his months-long stay at a hardcore Stalinist camp in the ’60s.
It’s clear the self-avowed socialist is even further left than he has admitted. Fifty years ago, during the height of the Cold War, he sought out communist indoctrination.
The Israeli press earlier this month broke the story that Sanders, who is Jewish, spent several months at an Israeli commune co-founded by a Soviet spy. The revelation is just now wending its way through the American media, where it’s been confirmed by none other than the New York Times, though the pro-Democrat paper predictably buried the story on its back pages.
As a college student in 1963, Sanders was a guest of the Hashomer Hatzair, a Marxist youth movement founded by communist Ya’akov Hazan, who called the Soviet Union a second homeland and eulogized Stalin as “the great leader and extolled commander. We lower our flag in grief in memory of the great revolutionary fighter (and) architect of socialist construction.”
Ignoring Stalin’s atrocities, Hazan oozed: “His huge historical achievements will guide generations in their march toward the reign of socialism and communism the world over.”
The Marxist movement Sanders joined pledged its allegiance to the Soviet Union and was described as “Stalinist” as late as 1969 — well after Sanders’ visit.
Sanders has acknowledged staying at a “kibbutz;” but there are many of them in Israel, and he and his campaign have refused to ID which one he attended. The Tel Aviv paper Haaretz dug up the records, revealing the exact camp — Sha’ar Ha’amakim — and noted that it was founded in 1935 during Stalin’s reign.
The Times reported that Sanders’ camp viewed the USSR as a model society worthy of adoption, and often flew the Red flag at its events — the same flag, notably, that Sanders would later hang in his office as mayor of Burlington, Vt., according to the New York Post.
The Times says Sanders and his comrades would farm in the morning and then partake in “cultural events” in the afternoon. Did he sing the communist workers’ anthem? Pay homage to Lenin and Stalin?
Voters ought to know. Only, the media aren’t interested in finding out. So far no debate moderator has asked Sanders about his commie camp days. Strikingly, even Fox News let Sanders off the hook in a rare interview last Sunday.
Sanders has a long resume of radicalism. Here’s the rest of Sanders’ subversive past the media are keeping under wraps:
1963-64: He joined the Young People’s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. Sanders also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was infiltrated by hardened Communist agents and under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
1971-76: Sanders helped found the socialist Liberty Union Party in Vermont, where he ran for governor and senator while calling for the government takeover of the medical industry and “all privately owned electric utilities,” as well as the “nationalization of the oil industry” — “without compensation to the banks and wealthy individuals who own them.”
Sounding like Lenin, he also demanded the government actually seize corporate assets and the wealth of billionaires, namely the Rockefellers, and redistribute it “for all people.”
1977: As founder of the socialist American People’s Historical Society, Sanders produced a 30-minute color documentary exalting his hero, socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed under the Espionage Act. (Today he keeps a portrait of Debs on his Senate office wall.)
1979: Sanders penned a piece for a local leftist rag arguing for the public takeover of the television industry, banishing commercial advertising and putting content under control of the government, a la Pravda.
1981: As Burlington’s new mayor, Sanders announced he didn’t believe in private charities and favored disbanding them, explaining government should be responsible for all social welfare and charity.
1981: Sanders adopted a Soviet sister city outside Moscow, as well as a city in Nicaragua to support the communist Sandinista revolution there.
1985: Sanders invited officials from the Soviet Union and communist China to stop by his office, while proposing that Washington divert military defense funds to “pay for thousands of U.S. children to go to the Soviet Union.”
July 1985: After passing a resolution pledging Burlington would defy President Reagan’s embargo on communist-controlled Nicaragua, Sanders traveled to Managua to attend, along with Soviet officials, an anti-U.S. rally sponsored by the Sandinistas.
He reportedly stood with a crowd that chanted, “Here, there, everywhere, the Yankee will die.” His trip was said to have been paid for by the Sandinista government. Sanders, in turn, invited Sandinista leader Daniel Ortega to visit the U.S.
1985: In a letter to the Sandinistas, according to the New York Post, Sanders pledged his support for their “struggle,” calling it a “heroic revolution” while accusing the Reagan administration of engaging in “terrorist activities.”
1985: In an interview with Vermont government-access TV, Sanders claimed: “The Sandinista government has more support among the Nicaraguan people — substantially more support — than Ronald Reagan has among the American people,” even though Reagan had just been reelected in a historic landslide.
1985: In the same interview, he praised Cuban dictator Fidel Castro, claiming “he educated their kids, gave their kids health care, totally transformed society.” He later showed his affection by traveling to Havana and meeting with its mayor.
1985: In an interview with the Los Angeles Times, Sanders proclaimed: “The whole quality of life in America is based on greed. I believe in the redistribution of wealth in this nation.”
1988: One day after wedding his second and current wife, Jane Sanders, the two traveled to the USSR for their honeymoon. Upon returning, Sanders praised communist health care and housing, noting “the cost of both services is much, much higher in the United States.”
1989: With the West on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the U.S. Peace Council — another known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath to “the triumph of Soviet power in the U.S.”
This is what Sanders really means by “political revolution,” a battle cry he mouthed no fewer than four times during a recent national debate.
Sanders isn’t just a “socialist.” Or even a communist sympathizer. He is a hard-core communist collaborator who is far, far outside the American political mainstream. So far outside, in fact, there undoubtedly is a file with his name on it at the FBI documenting his subversive activities.
Let’s hope it is leaked to the public before Sanders gets any closer to the White House.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 24, 2016 16:56:36 GMT -6
I think Bernie mistakes "greed" for hard work and determination something he obviously lost site of many,many,many years ago or so says the factual timeline.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 24, 2016 17:03:23 GMT -6
Bryce govt has a purpose each form city,county, state and federal it becomes dangerous when anyone of them over steps it's bounds on the people. The forefathers did not talk about grabbing people by the wind pipe and forcing them into a socialist commune, in fact not what our country was founded on in even the largest stretch of somes imaginations. Great govt is limited govt, they serve basic functions and allow states many rights. When they start getting into things not in the best interest of people that is where things get mucked up.
States are made up of many people and just because some states have less population doesn't mean that is a personnel invite for the Feds to come in and think they know what is best for all involved, we have been over this with Obama's care, what might work in one state doesn't work in another the same way. Also Obama thought this would be the savior, we are now finding out with facts it is nothing close to such, we have more people with PT versus FT as many as watching that magical 30 hr mark imposed for having to offer benefits of health care or not for a good sector of employee sized business.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 24, 2016 19:59:54 GMT -6
socialism: Like a skyscraper crane about to topple in high winds, Venezuela is teetering on the brink of a horrific economic collapse. It was brought on by one thing: socialism, taken to the hilt.
Yet incredibly, neither Bernie Sanders nor his voters make this connection.
It’s worrisome that so many Americans see socialism in a favorable light these days. A May 2015 YouGov poll showed that socialism was viewed favored favorably by 43% of Democrats, while a June 2015 Gallup poll showed that 47% of Americans would vote for a socialist.
It points to a collective loss of memory. After all, it’s been decades since the fact that the Berlin Wall fell and the Soviet empire collapsed. As chess champion Garry Kasparov has noted in “Winter Is Coming,” there have been no truth commissions or victory parades to institutionalize the monstrous idea’s discreditation and demise. In fact, the idea seems to be resurging in the U.S. Democratic Party, even with examples of its failures continuing, the latest example being Venezuela.
That reality of socialism and its horrific results is mocked by Sanders himself, who denies it has anything to do with his own ideas. “I myself don’t use the word socialism,” he told a University of Vermont student publication in 1976 “because people have been brainwashed into thinking socialism automatically means slave-labor camps, dictatorship and lack of freedom of speech.”
Brainwashed? The very word comes from socialist indoctrination practices. Sanders’ flip dismissal of those realities reminds us of a quote from Nobel Prize winner and author of “The Gulag Archipelago” Aleksander Solzhenitsyn: “Or do they refuse to see?” Yes, Sanders and his followers refuse.
Even the absence of slave-labor camps, in say, socialist Venezuela, doesn’t get Sanders off the hook. Right now Venezuelans are at the logical conclusion of 18 years of democratic socialism, the kind Sanders has praised in the past, and even benefited from, as he accepted Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez’s oil largesse — stolen from Venezuela’s people — for Vermont.
Today Venezuela, with the world’s largest oil reserves is, believe it or not, importing oil. It’s a perfect illustration of Nobel-winning economist Milton Friedman’s well known saying that if the Sahara took up socialism, there would soon be a shortage of sand.
Socialism has also led to massive shortages of food, toilet paper, diapers and medicine, among many other things, all the result of state planning and currency controls and rampant inflation. After 18 years of socialist spending, inflation has hit 720%, the IMF says. And don’t forget that Venezuela also has the world’s highest crime rate, with Caracas rated the world’s most dangerous city by the Citizens’ Council for Public Security and Criminal Justice.
Socialist Venezuela is on the verge of a massive Argentina-sized sovereign debt default, with $10 billion in debt payments due this year, and only $8 billion left to buy imports such as food, according to an appalling analysis in the Financial Times by Ricardo Hausmann. Meanwhile, Venezuela ranks No. 1 in the world on economist Steve Hanke’s Cato Institute “Misery Index” which is his measure of each nations’ combined inflation, unemployment and interest rates. Friday, Reuters reported that Venezuela was were desperately trying to swap out their gold reserves with German banks to survive a little longer. No surprise, investment banks say they’re looking at an 80% chance of a default. Blogger Miguel Octavio of The Devil’s Excrement reported this week that the Caracas airport was full of weeping families sending their young people into exile abroad.
That’s the part of socialism Bernie Sanders doesn’t want to talk about. It’s the same wherever it’s tried. Voters fall for it over and over, and all it brings is failure. Sanders is only continuing the con. When is he going to be called on it?
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 24, 2016 20:30:38 GMT -6
In a socialist society who does the work so others do not have to? Who pays for the free money train? The rich? Why would the rich try to maintain themselves knowing full well,90 percent your terms as doing well for taxation? They would either leave, hide the money or fold and themselves reap the rewards of socialism. Our GDP would drop big time, inflation would be unbearable. It would have to be, again facts. Right now banks are borrowing free money from our federal govt and why? We talk about evil banks and they are reaping from this admin and this admin is guaranteeing these banks home loans will be good? The banks have no risk no do they? We went through this once before we know the outcome, yet we continue to try and provide the American Dream to some who do not have the resources for such,
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Post by bblwi on Feb 24, 2016 20:46:50 GMT -6
Governments reflect who gets elected and how they respond to the citizens and their desires for change be that what many call liberal or conservative. That is the way democracies work. Over time our government has become more complex but then of course so has our nation and the world at large. We are not going to solve the issues of today's 310 million with methods used when we had 13 states and 5 million people, nor should we even want to. No one is shoving socialism down our throats, we are asking our society to be more willing to provide for our citizens and pass programs that make them more productive in a changing world. We read all the time about working harder to get more and if you look at the labor rates and wages paid those working are working harder for less due to many economic and political factors we now face. Just working hard is not a way to raise a family in our modern society. We need to be able to equip our workers and youth with skills that are in demand and not forcing people into occupations that are dwindling in numbers, pay and opportunity. If hard work was the measure of success many of our most recent young billionaires would never have become such. They worked smart, not necessarily hard and they used the skillsets of the modern world we are making available to all to their advantage.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Feb 25, 2016 6:23:12 GMT -6
Bryce you make some fair points to a degree, technology has change things for many, but hard work still takes you places and gives you something, a reason to roll out of bed each day! A means to provide for yourself or a family. The attitude is to not give up or look for the govt to take care of us.
I do not believe for a second that the constitution today is any real different than when we where founded. The basic principles still remain and many want to change such mid stream, would be like making a new bible today To fit the changing thoughts of some.
Socialism is being pushed today in this country, depending on who and what their ideals are it is there, we cannot make a mistake about that. Hilary's it takes a village to Bernies off the wall thoughts.
What is exactly the goal for govt providing for 310 million people? What are they to provide and what is expected of the citizens? When is too much intrusion into people's lives too much? That is where we are today, 8 years of a president that has accomplished very little in all reality and more intrusion into people's lives, adding 12 trillion in debt that my kids and grandkids will look to pay back to provide exactly what?
Sure congress has a part in this and people can change that with a vote as well. We cannot keep thinking the govt is central in our lives, as that leads to only one end that is socialism..........
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Post by trappnman on Feb 25, 2016 6:49:46 GMT -6
Who are you voting for TC? is that at least ONE question you will answer?
I consider the rest of your posts pap, and as such will ignore them- because after I read your first line, I stopped reading, and have not read any of the posts you made where you hastily googled everything and anything you could, to what effort I don't know- I suppose so you don't have to articulate your own thoughts.
"Tman your worrying about your wife's 401K and thr measly shares and investments of her portfolio and trying to compare that to all of Wall Street? LOL "
I knew then any debate with you is futile- keep looking, somewhere, behind all those trees, IS the forest.
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Post by bblwi on Feb 25, 2016 14:37:02 GMT -6
Never said that hard work is a lost cause but in today's modern economy it is more likely to lead to lower income, harder work and less opportunity in life and maybe more physical difficulties as we see in many who have retired from 30-40 years of physical labor. Also one probably needs to find a career or careers that allow one to work much longer like into their mid 70s as retirements, pensions and wages don't allow for savings at the rate that younger families can pack away to live 25 years or more in retirement. This is especially true if the far right continues to work to remove SSI and medicare etc. as our retirement insurance base and our medical insurance base programs. Most likely these programs won't be eliminated but will not keep pace with inflation and if wages don't then working longer is needed. Finding jobs that allow one to stay healthy and earn money will be the jobs to get and keep or move toward. I have two neighbors who worked about 35 years as construction workers and were always jealous of me for my time in the summer and fall for trapping and fishing but always teased me about being college educated but earning less then they did. Now they can hardly walk to hunt or even ice fish and they spent their money and have low savings. SSI is critical to them and they hate the government. Sure makes for an unhappy living situation. I agree that we should move on but I just wanted to let you review the Livestock indemnity program that I have copied below. As you can see the value per beef cow is about 10 fold what you stated it to be and close to what a lamb was worth. You seem to think that I don't know what these values are and or where to find them, but what I did learn is that I don't want someone with your skills researching the information for me either. www.fsa.usda.gov/Internet/FSA_File/lip_long_fact_sht_2014.pdfBryce
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