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Post by trappnman on Mar 3, 2015 9:24:31 GMT -6
yay or nay? without knowing a whole heck of a lot about him, what I have been hearing is he might be a moderate conservative that has some good ideas.
Will that moderation, doom him in the GOP?
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Post by mmwb (Andrew Parker) on Mar 3, 2015 21:43:10 GMT -6
Seems like moderation dooms anyone in either party.
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Post by trappnman on Mar 4, 2015 7:43:41 GMT -6
it does indeed- like I said I don't know al lhisp ostions, but so far, can live with what I see in Bush far more than the other GOP hopefuls
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Post by Jarhead620 on Mar 4, 2015 16:37:20 GMT -6
He has zero chance of getting the nomination.
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Post by trappnman on Mar 4, 2015 18:22:13 GMT -6
what are your views concerning his policies?
to me, he seems to be the type of old school Rep I could live with if need be
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Post by PamIsMe on Mar 5, 2015 2:29:47 GMT -6
If I had to live with a Republican President, from what I see so far, I could take Jeb before the other's who seem like a bunch of idiots to me. The worst of the bunch being Walker. I think Bush would bend over backwards to make his own reputation and not to follow in his family's footsteps. His Hispanic wife's image as first lady, and her reticence about being in the limelight, could be either a big plus or a deterrent in getting him votes.
His record for the most part however makes me cringe:
The governor who treated trial lawyers and teachers union leaders as enemies of the state? Who stripped job protections from civil servants? Who slashed taxes? Whose passion for privatization included enacting the nation's first statewide private school voucher program and extended to privatizing health care for the poor, prisons and child protection services? One who defied court after court to try to force the reinsertion of feeding tubes for brain-damaged Terri Schiavo and consistently backed more restrictions on abortions and fewer on gun ownership. He fought for reduced entitlement spending and, deriding nanny-state impulses, repealed the helmet law for motorcyclists in Florida and vetoed a GOP-backed bill requiring booster seats for kids in cars. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush also spoke out against legalizing marijuana in the state, saying the action would hurt the state’s family-friendly reputation.
I do think his stance on immigration, if it hasn't changed, will hurt him badly among republicans: Bush has taken policy stances against his party's grass roots on the hot button issues of immigration and education. Bush is an advocate for pathways to citizenship and residency for illegal immigrants, positions that House Republican leaders didn't even want to debate in this election year for fear they would cause too big a rift in the ranks.
Other than that, I see no "moderate" tendencies there. Same old attitude of cut taxes for the rich and to heck with the middle class and poor.
cheers, Pam
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Post by James on Mar 5, 2015 22:17:25 GMT -6
If prevailing opinion on other trapping boards amounts to anything, Walker will be the GOP nominee.
Jim
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Post by PamIsMe on Mar 6, 2015 1:19:01 GMT -6
lol I doubt it means anything James :-) Walker will self-destruct IMHO.
Cheers, Pam
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Post by bblwi on Mar 6, 2015 17:23:23 GMT -6
Giving tax dollars to those that choose to use private schools and operate with deficits and borrow money to build roads will not sell as well as many in the GOP Conservative fold will hope it will. Their ideology is not for public education but the general public is for the most part. We have many examples in WI were private schools are not achieving at the expected levels and thus it is about choice and not improvement or even lowering costs. With more dollars available now private school tuition rates are increasing. The report card for private colleges with student loans, grants and military education funding is not good and I am sure there will be a lot of press about that as time rolls along. We will see what the average wage rates do by next September here in WI with the new law past. Lower wage earnings is not a good selling point even for the GOP that keeps saying they want to improve the income of wage earners and working men and women.
Bryce
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Post by James on May 22, 2015 23:46:14 GMT -6
Jeb has brother's legacy to worry about. I've read reports that his advisors include the àrchitects of the Iraq war, including Wolfowitz. That's all I need to know.
Jim
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Post by bblwi on Jun 15, 2015 22:09:28 GMT -6
Bush really looks moderate compared to that field of 12-20 potential candidates. The GOP candidates have lots of large donors but they might have to use up a lot of money just stepping on each others toes and tongues. Walker's campaign may lose some glamor nationwide as their optimistic revenue projections fell far, far short and they will need to cut 100-130 million more from K-12 and the 300-350 million cut to the UW system will be much more likely needed and enacted. The fact that many DNR education and research positions will be eliminated and that several of those remaining will become part of commerce and or tourism will show how low he feels about independent research. The nation is very willing to be Centrist right on foreign policy ( one of his significant weaknesses) but not that far right on defunding public education, higher education and conservation research. He has a lot of his own party members really in rough positions and being perceived and or supporters of huge defunding of education which does offer considerable economic activity in many communities.
Bryce
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