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Post by PamIsMe on Sept 10, 2014 12:08:21 GMT -6
kstreet607.com/2013/06/21/a-canadians-view-on-our-disrespect-of-president-obamas-presidency/A Canadian’s View On Our Disrespect Of President Obama’s Presidency
America – He’s Your President for Goodness Sake!
By William Thomas
There was a time not so long ago when Americans, regardless of their political stripes, rallied round their president. Once elected, the man who won the White House was no longer viewed as a republican or democrat, but the President of the United States. The oath of office was taken, the wagons were circled around the country’s borders and it was America versus the rest of the world with the president of all the people at the helm.
Suddenly President Barack Obama, with the potential to become an exceptional president has become the glaring exception to that unwritten, patriotic rule.
Four days before President Obama’s inauguration, before he officially took charge of the American government, Rush Limbaugh boasted publicly that he hoped the president would fail. Of course, when the president fails the country flounders. Wishing harm upon your country in order to further your own narrow political views is selfish, sinister and a tad treasonous as well.
Subsequently, during his State of the Union address, which is pretty much a pep rally for America, an unknown congressional representative from South Carolina, later identified as Joe Wilson, stopped the show when he called the President of the United States a liar. The president showed great restraint in ignoring this unprecedented insult and carried on with his speech. Speaker Nancy Pelosi was so stunned by the slur, she forgot to jump to her feet while clapping wildly, 30 or 40 times after that.
Last spring, President Obama took his wife Michelle to see a play in New York City and republicans attacked him over the cost of security for the excursion. The president can’t take his wife out to dinner and a show without being scrutinized by the political opposition? As history has proven, a president in a theatre without adequate security is a tragically bad idea.
Remember: “Apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?”
At some point, the treatment of President Obama went from offensive to ugly and then to downright dangerous.
The health-care debate, which looked more like extreme fighting in a mud pit than a national dialogue, revealed a very vulgar side of America. President Obama’s face appeared on protest signs white-faced and blood-mouthed in a satanic clown image. In other tasteless portrayals, people who disagreed with his position distorted his face to look like Hitler complete with mustache and swastika.
Odd, that burning the flag makes Americans crazy, but depicting the president as a clown and a maniacal fascist is accepted as part of the new rude America.
Maligning the image of the leader of the free world is one thing, putting the president’s life in peril is quite another. More than once, men with guns were videotaped at the health-care rallies where the president spoke. Again, history shows that letting men with guns get within range of a president has not served America well in the past.
And still the “birthers” are out there claiming Barack Obama was not born in the United States, although public documentation proves otherwise. Hawaii is definitely part of the United States, but the Panama Canal Zone where his electoral opponent Senator John McCain was born? Nobody’s sure.
Last month, a 44-year-old woman in Buffalo was quite taken by President Obama when she met him in a chicken wing restaurant called Duff’s. Did she say something about a pleasure and an honour to meet the man or utter encouraging words for the difficult job he is doing? No. Quote: “You’re a hottie with a smokin’ little body.”
Lady, that was the President of the United States you were addressing, not one of the Jonas Brothers! He’s your president for goodness sakes, not the guy driving the Zamboni at “Monster Trucks On Ice.” Maybe next it’ll be, “Take Your President To A Topless Bar Day.”
In President Barack Obama, Americans have a charismatic leader with a good and honest heart. Unlike his predecessor, he’s a very intelligent leader. And unlike that president’s predecessor, he’s a highly moral man.
In President Obama, Americans have the real deal, the whole package and a leader that citizens of almost every country around the world look to with great envy. Given the opportunity, Canadians would trade our leader, hell, most of our leaders for Obama in a heartbeat.
What America has in Obama is a head of state with vitality and insight and youth. Think about it, Barack Obama is a young Nelson Mandela. Mandela was the face of change and charity for all of Africa but he was too old to make it happen. The great things Obama might do for America and the world could go on for decades after he’s out of office.
America, you know not what you have.
The man is being challenged unfairly, characterized with vulgarity and treated with the kind of deep disrespect to which no previous president was subjected. It’s like the day after electing the first black man to be president, thereby electrifying the world with hope and joy, Americans sobered up and decided the bad old days were better.
President Obama may fail but it will not be a Richard Nixon default fraught with larceny and lies. President Obama, given a fair chance, will surely succeed but his triumph will never come with a Bill Clinton caveat – “if only he’d got control of that zipper.”
Please. Give the man a fair, fighting chance. This incivility toward the leader who won over Americans and gave hope to billions of people around the world that their lives could be enhanced by his example, just naturally has to stop.
Believe me, when Americans drive by the White House and see a sign on the lawn that reads: “No shirt. No shoes. No service,” they’ll realize this new national rudeness has gone way, way too far.
www.williamthomas.ca
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 10, 2014 15:37:59 GMT -6
The problem being we never saw the hope turn into results for the most part, the other problem is our do nothing congress and many years of them stating they work for the people yet tend to get less and less accomplished with each passing year either side. People are getting fed up with our fed govt and for good reason not a R or D thing just a lack of accomplishment from either side and lack of direction and work from the White House it self.
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Post by bblwi on Sept 10, 2014 20:48:00 GMT -6
We have a sitting president with the poorest approval ratings in modern history and yet has about 2-3 times the approval rating of our Congress!!! There is not much room for the kettle to be calling the pot black.
For all those that don't want experience in politics or term limits etc. Our current president to me is a good example of an intelligent leader with too little experience and especially in how to work with other branches of government, selecting those in his administration that help find the cabinet leaders and also understand how to motivate citizens when one discusses those principles that he wants to advocate.
We have had only 1 one term president out of the last 5 which to me shows that even if people don't like our leaders, change is a tough think to promote or go through. We may be getting the leaders we deserve as apathetic about knowing civics and citizenship. When say WI and the federal government and many other states are deadlocked in this 51-49, 50-50 division all the time it shows very few of us are willing to actually do what democracy really asks one to do and that is to govern, lead and compromise to keep moving forward. We have a more deadlocked government now than the 20 years following the Civil war when hostilities were what we thought to be at their worst.
Bryce
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Post by PamIsMe on Sept 11, 2014 0:26:50 GMT -6
"We have a sitting president with the poorest approval ratings in modern history.."
Not exactly, Bush's approval rating was at 36.5 % when he left office (Harry Truman's was about the same and Nixon's only a couple points lower). We'll have to wait and see what Obama's is when he leaves office. I'm betting it won't be that low.
What gets me is the House's approval rating of 14%, and they will get voted back in.
The point is respect for the office if not the man holding it. We all want to teach our children respect. What does it say to them when the President is so disrespected by some. I've been sent some truly vile cartoons depicting he and his family. There's just no excuse for it.
"Odd, that burning the flag makes Americans crazy, but depicting the president as a clown and a maniacal fascist is accepted as part of the new rude America."
And sadly, that's the truth of it.
Pam
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 11, 2014 5:11:22 GMT -6
Pam I tend to like freedom of speech and really the president is no different than you or I except for politics,money and back door deals. He is elected to do a job and do it well if not then he opens himself up to a lot of things been going on for years, want me to post the cartoons from both Bush eras as well?  The point being he has gotten less done than even his base thought would get done, yes change is hard but people need to be able to see things more clearly and hard to do when we root for a side and not for the person. If one does an honest assessment he would get a very low grade, congress and different and I for one have no problems with term limits what so ever. Again I respect the position of POTUS just not the man elected this time. His track record is not good and history over time will bear that out. His approval rating has sunk and will sink further if this congress and the White House decides to sit on their heads and do nothing like they have been doing for a few years, we have many issues facing us and not much for direction or answers on how to fix it except to keep expanding our national debt and more people on the federal care plans. that to me is not a strong America. The housing market is bad it would be far worse if not for the fact that over 90 percent of all house loans done are backed by tax payers and our federal govt. |
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Post by PamIsMe on Sept 12, 2014 1:25:57 GMT -6
"The point being he has gotten less done than even his base thought would get done..."
I guess we'll have to disagree on that one. I don't know what other people expected, but given the mess he inherited, the Congress that won't even consider a compromise of any sort and has wasted tax payer money and time trying to undo things he has accomplished, a constant terrorist threat, and the middle east mess, I think he's done a decent job. I cannot imagine the shape we'd be in if Romney had gotten elected.
Pam
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 12, 2014 5:16:25 GMT -6
Pam you never listed one thing he has done except make up a bunch of excuses for him...............
Those excuses are way too old for the most part to use anymore.
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Post by bblwi on Sept 12, 2014 14:22:31 GMT -6
I don't think that Obama should be criticized as much for getting little to nothing done he has helped pass and make laws and decisions that some to many don't like.
ACA is a huge bill, maybe as big or bigger than the Civil Rights Bill or the New Deal bills like Social Security etc. It is just very, very unpopular for and by many.
The roll out was not good and the bill may well need considerable modification and there have been many changes and more to come. It is such a big deal that the opposition has tried to mount over 100 attempts to repeal the bill. Now who is wasting time and getting nothing done?
Just because one does not like the bill means the person leading that accomplished little to nothing.
There have been attempts by the administration to actually lower the corporate tax rate but the opposition does not like the potential trade offs.
This administration has also had to deal with the fallout from all the listening and investigation that was set into place by prior administrations regarding national security. Now how that is being handled may be a cause for debate but the fact that we have been living with this for 6-7 years before this administration came on board is not deniable.
With Obama being rated low and being attacked daily by those rated lower probably helps the GOP opposition more than the GOP. Sure you are going to have your 40 million rabid supporters who will vote for the far opposite of what they perceive Obama to represent and they will have lots of dollars to spend bringing on their divisive message but if they can't move another 20 million votes from the moderate, conservative, libertarians in this country they will not fare well. They will continue to hold onto their safe red seats and make noise instead of a difference. Same can be said by the strong blue districts as well.
Bryce
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Post by PamIsMe on Sept 13, 2014 1:19:23 GMT -6
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 13, 2014 5:12:25 GMT -6
Pam history' will show Obama's worth as a two term president............ These are all from Obama supporters so I take them for what it is worth, Your last statement again is trying to avoid the issues with Obama There should have been and will be a shake up in congress as well. 8 years and we will hang out hats on AHCA and all the rewording that will take place with it? I really have less problem with AHCA now than I did but still more fixing to be done, my main beef is it has not lowered health care cost except for those without or pack of care, yet we where promised this wasn't another entitlement program this was to lower cost across the board Pure bunk and will not do that in the future either. many other major issues have sat on the back burner and his time is ticking away, Bryce you might see it as one of the most important in history I look to the internet and how much revenue that created and jobs more so than another entitlement program. Which let us be honest that is what AHCA is...................... he has added to entitlements greatly during his period in office that is fact, and I really do not see how that puts people to work and creates jobs as this healthcare program uses the same basic structure we already had in place just makes some mandates on those in the business. |
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Post by James on Sept 13, 2014 20:00:30 GMT -6
Obama has been a disappointment to me, but there's no question that he's been treated more disrespectfully than any president in my lifetime.
Jim
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 14, 2014 7:39:19 GMT -6
James that very well could be but has been a trend and who knows if it will continue on or not? freedom of speech and there have been presidents who have done things in the the position that they should be ashamed of as well.. Again depending on who you like or dislike lends itself to do they get a free pass for such actions or not..........
if a president accomplishes a lot I would think it harder for many to run me into the ground, only would make them look EVEN more foolish, yet again we worry about the president and how he is handled by people yet many military personnel get a lot of bad treatment and we make little of such.................
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Post by trappnman on Sept 16, 2014 7:38:32 GMT -6
that may very well be? and its tossed off like that?
NO PRESIDENT in history has had the do absolutely nothing opposition as Obama has- and then the republican congress and the tea party supporters have the balls to say he could have accomplished more?
good golly miss molly to be polite
military? you mean like the house keeps voting down or not allowing funding to come to vote?
GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY
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Post by trappnman on Sept 16, 2014 7:39:57 GMT -6
I hope the reps take the senate-
and you watch the slaughter in 2016 when they cannot twist or back away from their do nothingness-
all three branches will be democrat
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Post by bblwi on Sept 16, 2014 12:33:11 GMT -6
Yes it would be interesting to see what a GOP lead Senate and House would do with major issues like
ACA
Immigration,
National debt
NSA secret eves dropping
Job creation
Actual real tax reform
Working with our NATO, SEATO powers
Military versus diplomatic actions in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan etc.
They have had the luxury of talking about all these with no consequences for their thoughts. Responsibility may change the tone of the discussion.
It is easy to make noise, not so easy to make a decision. ( It would be good for all of us to see just how TEA Party politicians actually govern instead of just complain and talk.
Conservative WASP politics and especially mostly male centered and older is a demographic that is not slowly but quickly dying off and lets see how much noise can be made before the last yells are distant echos of the past.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 16, 2014 17:01:29 GMT -6
BIAS is a great thing Bryce not the party but the person .............. What they do and what they fail to do............ |
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Post by mattduncan on Sept 16, 2014 21:16:54 GMT -6
The writer can speak for himself , I like the leader if my country just fine and don't wish to trade home for mr. Obama
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Post by bblwi on Sept 16, 2014 22:15:14 GMT -6
So you are saying that if the GOP fails to act or make policy on any of those decisions it I s a failure of individual political leadership? I am quite certain there are many that will agree with you if that is your belief.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 17, 2014 5:23:37 GMT -6
What I am saying is, the president knows the job and challenges at hand and it is up to him to work through them and he will get NO free pass or excuses for lack of accomplishments .............
, I understand congress as a whole is a joke has been for many years now, until we impose term limits we shall continue to see such take place.
Yet no free pass for any of them or the president it is up to them ALL to get things done and until their is a shake up stats quo will continue on...............,
I look at the debt, the amount of people on public assistance, the lack of job growth, the poor housing market as factors .
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Post by trappnman on Sept 17, 2014 7:51:25 GMT -6
while your are looking, I hope your glasses are clear enough to show you WHY none of tat occurred-
lets see- a house that publically stated they would allow no legislation to pass
duh-
public assistance? oh, you mean all the corporate welfare and tax dodgers? could not agree more.
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