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Post by Jarhead620 on Sept 8, 2014 14:33:52 GMT -6
I wish all the PC minded white people would quite whining about the Redskin's team name. It's getting pathetic. Keep the name! www.redskinsfacts.com/Jarhead
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 8, 2014 19:24:49 GMT -6
Yes I agree this name has been used for many years and is done with class not name calling of Indians. many schools use the name red men and to date not many have had issues with it. This has really only come to light in the last few years and now "everyone" has an issue with it The in thing I guess, our govt has a lot more to worry about than the name of an NFL team. If redskins go then I will start a petition as someone with a strong Irish decent to get the name fighting irish banned next........... Portraying a group of people as a group of fighters is defaming and derogatory to my people as well. Many things Irish people can or liked to be called but fighters isn't one of them
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Post by trappnman on Sept 9, 2014 7:21:04 GMT -6
I suppose if they change the name, the average Washington fan wouldn't be able to figure out who to root for..............
facts...... only fact I read, was that they choose the name/
some other "facts-
Redskin" is a term for Native Americans. Its connotations are a subject of debate,[1] although the term is defined in current dictionaries of American English as "usually offensive",[2] "disparaging",[3][4] "insulting",[5] and "taboo." [6] The term has almost disappeared from common usage since the 1960s, except as a name for sports teams, although the number of teams using the name has also been in steady decline. The origin of the term is also debated, some stating that it derives from the use of "red" color metaphor for race following European colonization of the Western Hemisphere, others state that it was originally applied only to certain tribes that used red pigments to paint their skin.
It is argued by sociologist Irving Lewis Allen that slang identifiers for ethnic groups based upon physical characteristics are by nature derogatory, emphasizing the difference between the speaker and the target.[7] However, Professor Luvell Anderson of the University of Memphis, in his paper "Slurring Words", argues that for a word to be a slur, the word must communicate ideas beyond identifying a target group, and that, slurs are offensive because the additional data contained in those words differentiates those individuals from otherwise accepted groups.[8] An example of the negative context of the term in popular culture is in "Western" movies of the 1940s to the 1960s, in which "Redskins" were often portrayed as savage enemies.[9]
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or perhaps just a simple definition?
noun
1. an old-fashioned informal name, now considered taboo, for a Native American
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Post by Jarhead620 on Sept 9, 2014 11:16:39 GMT -6
Steve, I'm trying to understand why you think it's so offensive when an overwhelming parcentage of American Indians including my former wife and four grown children state that it is much ado about nothing. If you think about the context, the term "Redskins" can't logically be considered derogatory when used as the name of a sports team. Anyone who professes to be offended by that use is way too caught up in the nauseating wave of political correctness infecting our country.
Jarhead
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 9, 2014 18:41:00 GMT -6
Yes in fact many go by the term let's go skins not even using the word red many times in their chants let's go skins. or the skins won or lost today, no way is this a slam against Indians when used in the context it has been for many years.........,,
It is a sad day when the ND fighting Sioux was forced to change and that change well yet has to be determined. fighting Sioux or fighting irish what is the difference? Pure bunk by a handful of people and the NCAA with no backbone.
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