Post by FWS on Apr 24, 2014 20:11:54 GMT -6
Hero Rancher’s Family Has Been On Nevada Land Since Forever Or At Least 1948
by Doktor Zoom
Wonkette.com
April 22, 2014
Maybe we're too subtle about what we think of these guys...So you remember how Cow Freedom Hero Nevada Rancher Cliven Bundy’s family has been on the land that they stole fair and square from the Indians since the 1870s and therefore all of his rights to graze his cattle predate any dumb “Bureau of Land Management” or “grazing fees” or “federal interference in Our Freedom”? Some bright smartasses at Las Vegas Teevee Station KLAS decided, very unfairly we should add, to go and look in the Clark County records, just to be communist troublemakers, and they discovered that in reality,
Clark County property records show Cliven Bundy’s parents moved from Bundyville, Arizona and bought the 160 acre ranch in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt.
Water rights were transferred too, but only to the ranch, not the federally managed land surrounding it. Court records show Bundy family cattle didn’t start grazing on that land until 1954.
There is almost certainly a very good logical explanation for those records that doesn’t involve Cliven Bundy being a goddamned liar, and we can hardly wait for Fox News and Sean Hannity to find it.
Mr. Bundy just happens to know a hell of a lot more about his family’s history than some dumb piece of paper in a file in the Clark County Assessor’s Office, tell you what:
“I’ve lived my lifetime here. My forefathers have been up and down the Virgin Valley here ever since 1877. All these rights that I claim, have been created through pre-emptive rights and beneficial use of the forage and the water and the access and range improvements,” Bundy said …
“My rights are before the BLM even existed, but my rights are created by beneficial use. Beneficial use means we created the forage and the water from the time the very first pioneers come here,” Bundy said.
The snotty little government-teat-suckling liars at KLAS claim that Bundy has his chronology maybe a teensy bit off, seeing as how his family bought the land in 1948 and began grazing it in 1954, while “The Bureau of Land Management was created 1946, the same year Cliven was born.”
Now who are you going to trust, an American Patriot who denies that the U.S. government has any legitimacy, or some lying land records in a government office that say something different?
For any geneaology geeks out there, KLAS also has a second article detailing Bundy’s claims that his family had been ranching in the area since the 1870s — it looks like his maternal grandparents did have a farm in the area, but there’s no indication that they were cattle ranchers doing useful cattle ranching, and their farm was not on the land that Bundy now owns, nor was it adjacent to the federal land for which he refused to pay grazing fees.
Oh, and the 1998 opinion from a U.S. District Court that determined that Bundy had failed to pay grazing fees, and therefore had no further rights to graze on federal land, also found that Bundy’s family had only been ranching in the area since 1954.
Still, what’s a little embellishment about an extra 75 years of ranching that never happened? The main thing is that the Feds have just totally gotten out of control, right?
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I-Team: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny
By Nathan Baca, Investigative Reporter
9 News Now- Las Vegas
Apr 23, 2014
LAS VEGAS -- Federal authorities remain silent about their next plans to confront Cliven Bundy at his Bunkerville ranch.
Both sides are fighting over history, with federal courts denying Bundy's claims of "ancestral rights" on the Virgin River valley. The I-Team dug into century-old records to examine Bundy's claims.
At the Bunkerville camp next to Cliven Bundy's ranch, there are constant reminders of history.
Revolutionary War flags, ancient Greek mottos and native American symbols, all mixing together to create a growing identity and narrative for protestors.
This land is unusually fertile and green for southern Nevada. Cliven Bundy grows melons there. They are said to be the best in the state.
His cattle, until recently, roamed freely on land managed by the federal Bureau of Land Management. Before the roundup that sparked protests, confrontations and gunmen taking a bridge, Bundy explained his "ancestral rights" to the I-Team.
"I've lived my lifetime here. My forefathers have been up and down the Virgin Valley here ever since 1877. All these rights that I claim, have been created through pre-emptive rights and beneficial use of the forage and the water and the access and range improvements," Bundy said.
Clark County property records show Cliven Bundy's parents bought the 160 acre ranch in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt.
Water rights were transferred too, but only to the ranch, not the federally managed land surrounding it. Court records show Bundy family cattle didn't start grazing on that land until 1954.
The Bureau of Land Management was created 1946, the same year Cliven was born.
"My rights are before the BLM even existed, but my rights are created by beneficial use. Beneficial use means we created the forage and the water from the time the very first pioneers come here," Bundy said.
Early census records show Cliven's maternal grandmother, Christena Jensen, was born in Nevada in 1901 (other records show she was born in 1891 as Abigail Christina Abbott).
One word spreading through Bundy supporters and his armed guards is that what the federal government is doing to Bundy is exactly what they did to native Americans.
"They are literally treating western United States citizens, ranchers, rural folks like this- are the modern day Indians. We're being driven off of our lands. We're being forced into reservations known as cities," Justin Giles, an Oathkeeper from Alaska, said.
The local Paiute Indians were forced into reservations by federal troops in 1875. Two years prior, the tribe was promised the same land Cliven Bundy now grows his melons ,and until recently, grazed his cattle.
The I-Team's research team has come up with an in-depth look at the genealogy and property records that form the basis of Cliven Bundy's claim of ancestral rights on the ranch land.
by Doktor Zoom
Wonkette.com
April 22, 2014
Maybe we're too subtle about what we think of these guys...So you remember how Cow Freedom Hero Nevada Rancher Cliven Bundy’s family has been on the land that they stole fair and square from the Indians since the 1870s and therefore all of his rights to graze his cattle predate any dumb “Bureau of Land Management” or “grazing fees” or “federal interference in Our Freedom”? Some bright smartasses at Las Vegas Teevee Station KLAS decided, very unfairly we should add, to go and look in the Clark County records, just to be communist troublemakers, and they discovered that in reality,
Clark County property records show Cliven Bundy’s parents moved from Bundyville, Arizona and bought the 160 acre ranch in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt.
Water rights were transferred too, but only to the ranch, not the federally managed land surrounding it. Court records show Bundy family cattle didn’t start grazing on that land until 1954.
There is almost certainly a very good logical explanation for those records that doesn’t involve Cliven Bundy being a goddamned liar, and we can hardly wait for Fox News and Sean Hannity to find it.
Mr. Bundy just happens to know a hell of a lot more about his family’s history than some dumb piece of paper in a file in the Clark County Assessor’s Office, tell you what:
“I’ve lived my lifetime here. My forefathers have been up and down the Virgin Valley here ever since 1877. All these rights that I claim, have been created through pre-emptive rights and beneficial use of the forage and the water and the access and range improvements,” Bundy said …
“My rights are before the BLM even existed, but my rights are created by beneficial use. Beneficial use means we created the forage and the water from the time the very first pioneers come here,” Bundy said.
The snotty little government-teat-suckling liars at KLAS claim that Bundy has his chronology maybe a teensy bit off, seeing as how his family bought the land in 1948 and began grazing it in 1954, while “The Bureau of Land Management was created 1946, the same year Cliven was born.”
Now who are you going to trust, an American Patriot who denies that the U.S. government has any legitimacy, or some lying land records in a government office that say something different?
For any geneaology geeks out there, KLAS also has a second article detailing Bundy’s claims that his family had been ranching in the area since the 1870s — it looks like his maternal grandparents did have a farm in the area, but there’s no indication that they were cattle ranchers doing useful cattle ranching, and their farm was not on the land that Bundy now owns, nor was it adjacent to the federal land for which he refused to pay grazing fees.
Oh, and the 1998 opinion from a U.S. District Court that determined that Bundy had failed to pay grazing fees, and therefore had no further rights to graze on federal land, also found that Bundy’s family had only been ranching in the area since 1954.
Still, what’s a little embellishment about an extra 75 years of ranching that never happened? The main thing is that the Feds have just totally gotten out of control, right?
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I-Team: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny
By Nathan Baca, Investigative Reporter
9 News Now- Las Vegas
Apr 23, 2014
LAS VEGAS -- Federal authorities remain silent about their next plans to confront Cliven Bundy at his Bunkerville ranch.
Both sides are fighting over history, with federal courts denying Bundy's claims of "ancestral rights" on the Virgin River valley. The I-Team dug into century-old records to examine Bundy's claims.
At the Bunkerville camp next to Cliven Bundy's ranch, there are constant reminders of history.
Revolutionary War flags, ancient Greek mottos and native American symbols, all mixing together to create a growing identity and narrative for protestors.
This land is unusually fertile and green for southern Nevada. Cliven Bundy grows melons there. They are said to be the best in the state.
His cattle, until recently, roamed freely on land managed by the federal Bureau of Land Management. Before the roundup that sparked protests, confrontations and gunmen taking a bridge, Bundy explained his "ancestral rights" to the I-Team.
"I've lived my lifetime here. My forefathers have been up and down the Virgin Valley here ever since 1877. All these rights that I claim, have been created through pre-emptive rights and beneficial use of the forage and the water and the access and range improvements," Bundy said.
Clark County property records show Cliven Bundy's parents bought the 160 acre ranch in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt.
Water rights were transferred too, but only to the ranch, not the federally managed land surrounding it. Court records show Bundy family cattle didn't start grazing on that land until 1954.
The Bureau of Land Management was created 1946, the same year Cliven was born.
"My rights are before the BLM even existed, but my rights are created by beneficial use. Beneficial use means we created the forage and the water from the time the very first pioneers come here," Bundy said.
Early census records show Cliven's maternal grandmother, Christena Jensen, was born in Nevada in 1901 (other records show she was born in 1891 as Abigail Christina Abbott).
One word spreading through Bundy supporters and his armed guards is that what the federal government is doing to Bundy is exactly what they did to native Americans.
"They are literally treating western United States citizens, ranchers, rural folks like this- are the modern day Indians. We're being driven off of our lands. We're being forced into reservations known as cities," Justin Giles, an Oathkeeper from Alaska, said.
The local Paiute Indians were forced into reservations by federal troops in 1875. Two years prior, the tribe was promised the same land Cliven Bundy now grows his melons ,and until recently, grazed his cattle.
The I-Team's research team has come up with an in-depth look at the genealogy and property records that form the basis of Cliven Bundy's claim of ancestral rights on the ranch land.
