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Post by FWS on Apr 14, 2014 9:53:24 GMT -6
The seminal classic documentary of Minnesota culture 'Fargo' returns as a series to the FX Network. Yaa' you betcha........................
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Post by trappnman on Apr 14, 2014 10:26:43 GMT -6
I do like the MN girls song...LOL
I wouldn't live anywhere else-
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Apr 14, 2014 17:21:26 GMT -6
FWS you need to spend an entire winter up in Fargo and Bismarck take in some ice fishing and drink some beers with the boys . Who knows you might enjoy it. besides tough to beat watching the North Dakota Fighting Sioux hockey Hey?
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Post by trappnman on Apr 14, 2014 17:24:05 GMT -6
well, we didn't get the title game..but we beat them boys! lol
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Apr 14, 2014 17:24:36 GMT -6
This is West central North Dakota awsome country for sure.
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Post by trappnman on Apr 14, 2014 17:33:13 GMT -6
yes- agree...but the other 99.99%....... way to flat and lonesome for me
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Apr 14, 2014 18:08:40 GMT -6
Sorry Tman I am a loyal Fighting Sioux fan . That was a great game between ND and U of Minn. Sad that after all those years outside influences played a part in the fighting Sioux no longer in use. Now they are just the Sioux and logo well they are lacking it now. The Indian head with crossed hockey sticks I found to be well done and not a slam at all and adorned the Sioux jerseys for many years.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Apr 14, 2014 18:09:57 GMT -6
Tman a pile of coyotes in that central flat country though LOL?
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Post by FWS on Apr 14, 2014 22:22:47 GMT -6
Yeah, I can do without that, after fishing the ocean for as long as I have, catching a huge variety of species the ice fishing on a freshwater lake thing would bore me after a couple days.
But hey, as a born and bred Northern Iowan you need not feel slighted since there was a classic seminal film based on a young fella from that region...................
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Post by trappnman on Apr 15, 2014 6:17:40 GMT -6
I/m not a big fishing fan although I love stream trout fishing- but- the variety of fish available in Mn for the table, is quite large and varied.
if you were born here FWS, you would defend it with roughly the same arguments you now defend what is familiar to you
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Post by FWS on Apr 15, 2014 10:18:20 GMT -6
It's miniscule by comparison to the Pacific, Atlantic, Gulf of Mexico, etc.
No, I'd have gravitated towards a coastline because it's an hereditary thing. We actually see that a lot, where people whose ancestors were fishermen move to areas where they can do it or be close to it. Even when they're a generation or three removed from it.
Most likely not given the experience................
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Post by trappnman on Apr 15, 2014 11:01:58 GMT -6
genetic imprinting?
maybe- but if so, feel the same around here
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Apr 15, 2014 11:14:30 GMT -6
FWS if everyone who had roots along a coast lived along one in the US well I would be happy as I would have tons of great freshwater fishing,trapping and hunting without running into many people at all in a years time, your oceans would be way over harvested . Each to their own but I will visit the coast and then come back home. Even though my Irish roots should tell me I NEED to live along a coast line LOL.
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Post by trappnman on Apr 15, 2014 12:31:51 GMT -6
I understand the feeling of "here is where I belong"
the Big River, the hills and valleys and streams and what they hold-
big water holds little fascination for me-
I could live in parts of the west for sure
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Post by FWS on Apr 15, 2014 15:34:53 GMT -6
TC, about 40% of the U.S. population does live in coastal counties and another big percentage is pretty close to the coasts. Which is what I've always done with inland areas................. Perhaps not, your ancestors were probably farmers or pastoralists in the interior, there were many of those. You probably don't have direct connections to your family or the region they're from, I do. My ancestors were, and still are, fishermen. They lived in very remote areas and were insulated as such from the British taking their lands and from famine events such occurred with the potato blight. Same thing happened with my cousins, after getting formally educated in the universities and working in their fields they essentially said, 'This sucks, think I'll just go fishing"
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Apr 15, 2014 18:41:32 GMT -6
FWS define close . You can have all but a million or two people and the rest can live on the US coast leaves the rest of us plenty of room and great hunting,fishing and trapping You would be awfully crowded. You doubt my ancestors are costal people? heck depending on how you define close even if your in Tillamore Ireland your not more than 100 miles from the coast . I drove further than that to wal mart when I lived in Sputh Dakota LOL. besides if fishing is your main stay and in your blood so be it. I don't need to be bobbing on endless water when I have other things to see and do. lake of the Ozarks nice place in the fall when the hardwoods are changing color and awsome fishing. Pactola,plenty of great fishing and plenty of water for me
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Post by FWS on Apr 15, 2014 20:06:48 GMT -6
For the U.S. population it's within 40 miles, with most even closer than that.
Actually that would be Tullamore, and yes I've passed through there on the way North from Waterford. It is smack dab in the center of Ireland and yes, your ancestors would have been farmers or pastoralists if they lived there. And back then 100 miles would have been a huge distance for any traveler, they did not commute to the Atlantic Ocean to go fishing. So no, they were not coastal people.
And you're missing an important point here, my people were and still are 'commercial' fishermen, along with subsistence fishermen. That was their livelihood, and the commute to the ocean is a 15 second walk since they literally lived on the coast, and still do. We still own the property and the cottages on it, along with a few islands. If you ever see the film 'The Secret Of Roan Inish' that's where it was filmed, the exact area with multiple scenes filmed on family property.
I've told you that before, as well as pointing out that what you'd consider 'awesome fishing' probably wouldn't qualify as such from my perspective.
Great for some species ? Perhaps, but it lacks a lot of the diversity found elsewhere and the opportunities are limited.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Apr 16, 2014 4:48:26 GMT -6
FWS each to his own, your a Cali guy and plenty of us who aren't. Awsome is a subjective thing what you think is awsome or great others do not and what I think as awsome and great you do not. Don't loose sleep over not every one is in love with the ocean and fishing such waters. I will sleep well knowing the ocean is a place I don't need to live by. People are happy in many places and that will continue of not again more room for the rest of us. Well then you figured out why I like the middle of the US then didn't you It in my people's blood.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Apr 16, 2014 6:50:07 GMT -6
I'm not happy unless I am standing on three feet of ice.
You guys can have the boats.
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Post by FWS on Apr 16, 2014 7:54:05 GMT -6
Actually they would too if they experienced it.................. I don't, I just think it's really quite silly for guys to claim that their fishing opportunities in landlocked states are every bit as good as the oceans. They're not, and is in fact not even close. Not in quantity, quality of food, or income. Sure, it's your attraction to sheep. Which is what your pastoralist ancestors would have raised in Ireland, and which is what you gravitated to South Dakota for. The lack of sheep in MO is making you antsy and irritable. Where's your sense of adventure ?
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