This sure take the fun out of long range shooting

[trappincoyotes39]

Anyone check these out? If you have the big $$$$$$ you can own this system and make long range shots with very high degrees of accuracy. To me takes the fun out of long range calculating and shooting your firearm in certain conditions and doing the figuring with the ol' human brain.

Uses missile guiding type technology.

I would rather miss a few more than use something like this as this won't teach us as much and not to mention the 22,000+ price tag. I'm wondering how many of these they are selling?

tracking-point.com/

[FWS]

It's looks more like reactionary legislation or regulatory action just waiting to happen, like the flurry of 'computer assisted hunting' bills that passed a few years back.

It's interesting technology but better left to uses other than hunting.

[trappincoyotes39]

Well I don't know about legislation but would be boring to me with this kind of technology, plus the fact the price tag will limit sales for sure. Honey can I spend 22,000 on a rifle scope system, sure honey go for it LOL.

It would get boring real fast, might be fun to shoot a few times but takes out all the aspects that draw most to longer range shooting in the first place IMO. I know if the price would come down a long ways people would buy it, as sadly as with more and more technology in our lives many people look for the easy answer on many aspects of their lives. Glad I don't see it that way and enjoy the challenges in life as they come.

Here is their selling video shots out to 1,100 yards.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2EqO1qbrQ&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dyu2EqO1qbrQ

[FWS]

Honey can I spend 22,000 on a rifle

Lot of folks do, but on double rifles and bolt action hunting rifles, and shotguns of course. Last I looked D'Arcy Echols will build you one of his 'Legend' hunting rifles for around $14,000. Built for total reliability.

Something from David Miller would be that much and more.

Or you can get a U.S. made double rifle from B. Searcy & Co. for around $15,500 for the base model.

I saw that Satterlee Arms is offering a titanium Mauser 98 action for around $6500.

If you ever get a chance go to the SCI convention, in Reno or Las Vegas, where they hold the American Custom Gun Makers Guild convention alongside.

If you want to see the best of the best equipment and people spending real money that's where you'll witness it.

Lot of older fellows there with their 'niece' too..........................

[trappincoyotes39]

Yeh but a whole lot more do not lol

[FWS]

Yeh but a whole lot more do not

But they would if they could.

I mean really now, if any of us fell into a large sum of money we would all buy more guns, and expensive ones too. And take the hunting trips to use them on. With side trips to warm tropical beaches with our 'nieces'.

If you're spending $60,000 on a Marco Polo sheep hunt in Mongolia you want the most dependable rifle you can get.

[jim]

May 28, 2013 20:12:30 GMT -6 FWS said:

Yeh but a whole lot more do not

But they would if they could.

I mean really now, if any of us fell into a large sum of money we would all buy more guns, and expensive ones too. And take the hunting trips to use them on. With side trips to warm tropical beaches with our 'nieces'.

If you're spending $60,000 on a Marco Polo sheep hunt in Mongolia you want the most dependable rifle you can get.

Not so, even I a nonreligious person has more morals than that and I think others would agree also.

Jim

[FWS]

even I a nonreligious person has more morals than that

So it's immoral to date younger women ? Over 18 of course. And when you're unmarried, which many of us are.

I was thinking of one around 30 years old or so, which is just about right for a guy in his 40's to 50's.

The old formula for a guy choosing a female is 1/2 + 7, that's half his age plus 7 years. So a 48 year old guy should look for a 31 year old woman.

Ya' know, it was how it worked in this country from before the Founding, in fact, most of the Founders had young wives, and their mistresses were younger than their wives.

The last Civil War widows who were still drawing their hubbies pensions died off not long ago. Sweet young things who married the grizzled old veteran.......................

Of course today we can flip it, what with the whole 'cougar' thing going on. I think a younger guy would do well to undergo the tutelage of a mature, attractive, physically fit woman.

Oh hello, Mrs. Robinson................................

Or is it immoral to go on a $60,000 hunt in Mongolia ? Or spend $15,000 on a rifle ?

[jim]

I think the implication is that the wife was left at home. Jim

[trappincoyotes39]

FWS I wouldn't spend 22,000 on a gun because no matter my sum of money I don't feel any modern firearm is worth such....... I could get by with a gun less than a third of that cost. And buy many more guns total. I wouldn't be missing much except fancy wood and a famous name.

Now older collector guns are a different category.

Marco Polo sheep? No thanks not if I won the lottery tonight, that wold never cross my mind really. I guess I would be happy hunting all over North America and my only desire in Africa would be a spotted hyena I would like to trap them and call them in.

[mostinterestingmanintheworld]

1/2 plus 7. Now I like that algebra. If a guy was married it would be a way to measure his wife's ballistic coefficient. lol

[FWS]

I think the implication is that the wife was left at home

What wife ?

And why would your wife be at home if you were wealthy ? She'd probably be on a vacation of her own, really enjoying herself without you underfoot.

I don't feel any modern firearm is worth such.......

Many certainly are, and they'll retain much of their value and most likely increase.

I could get by with a gun less than a third of that cost.

That's still $7000..............

Marco Polo sheep? No thanks

Sure, why not ? You got something against Mongolians and really, really rural areas.

There's a lot of quality hunting all over the world, no reason to limit yourself to North America if you've got the resources.

1/2 plus 7. Now I like that algebra.

See there, Joel understands.

[trappincoyotes39]

Sorry but you and others can spend 22,000 on a rifle and travel to Mongolia. I find no need to do either no matter how much money I may have.................

[trappnman]

back to the topic, kinda- does anyone take a long range shot, expecting to miss?

[trappincoyotes39]

expecting to miss? They shouldn't or why take the shot? The issue is your confidant level in the shot and how many you connect on......... Anyone knows their limits and the confidence in a shot past 250 yrds, if I don't feel really good about the shot I will pass and wait for another opportunity it may come within 1 hour or the next few days. Specially on coyotes doing depredation.

nothing is 100% but practice and knowing my range and conditions have really upped my % of hits past 350 yrds. My confidant level is much higher today than 10 years ago.

[FWS]

does anyone take a long range shot, expecting to miss?

Probably the majority.............. But the question is better phrased, "How many take a long range shot hoping they'll hit it, but expecting to miss."

I find no need to do either no matter how much money I may have.................

Where's your sense of adventure ?

I'm rather glad people will spend $22,000 (and more) on a rifle or a shotgun, since they are supporting the high end craftsmen that build such pieces.

Same with hunts for species such as Marco Polo sheep, where the conservation programs and local communities benefit from the relatively few specimens taken by foreign tourist hunters. And there's a long and interesting political history on that species regarding the ability to legally import the trophy. The precedent of which has benefited our interests as trappers.

[trappincoyotes39]

I have plenty of adventure but doesn't mean I need to fly half way round the world to find adventure. I have had plenty of great times in the good ol' USA. Many on the prairies and forest in the US. I just don't see the need to hunt exotics never been my deal is all. 60,000 to hunt something most can't relate to? Great if that floats your boat, I'm happy with all the critters North America offers is all.

If someone wants to support the " craftsman" so be it will never be me. Reguardless of my net worth. I could spend 5 grand on a custom pistol but I love Sigs they shoot awsome and super dependable so I don't see a need to go Wilson combat or les Baer.

Plenty of conservation taking place with the millions and millions spent in the US on license, ammo,guns etc.