1st and 3rd and I'm batting cleanup

[bogio]

First in this set, third at this location.



Guess I'm batting cleanup.

[Nick C]

Lemme guess, 3/32nds coon snare?

[bogio]

3/32 cable, bent washer lock, cinched down to the aluminum ferrule deer stop.

[trappincoyotes39]

Living in the past hey robert? LOL.

7x7 without the added parts like a deer stop and washer lock would be sufficent with a stinger kill spring and filed cam lock. As much as the cable one must also look at the parts to go with it as well.

No doubt 1x19 is more chew resistant and holds a better loop I like but live cable restraints isn't snaring it is restraining and with coyotes no a good deal from the get go.

[trappincoyotes39]

Yes I know robert but YOU where blaiming the cable and not thinking hardware on the cable.

You changes the hardware then one might have to change the cable, yet some hardware will alow you more flexability in cable selection.

[robertw]

In this instance, where there is NO choke spring. Would you agree the wrong cable was used and should not be used in this application??

You have the picture as proof of the results of using this cable in this application.

[trappincoyotes39]

I would blame the guy setting as in Iowa choke springs are Legal and should have been incorperated and this coyote would have been dead. I don't blame the cable it is just cable. I blame the person setting a washer lock snare for coyotes and should use every advantage afforeded by the laws of the state.

Yes in this instance the " choice" was not proper.

Again you can use 1x19 in cable restraints and they where tested as such. Just like when I was told I did not test thompson restraints and clearly I did. Yet people even the maker said not so.

[bogio]

I don't snare so I DON'T know.

Due to the addition of the deer stop it appeared to me that the snare was as tight as it was going to get, period. Would a kill spring truly have helped in this situation? Once it hits the stop, there is no further travel to compress the spring.

[trappincoyotes39]

Bogio again all depends on where the deer stop was placed! If at the min requirement MOST coyotes would fall with a deer stop in IOwa, I used to snare them in Iowa coyotes yes, many fox NO.

Robert we have been over this in the past I did the Cable restraint testing in SD and 1x19 in multiple configs was tested as I did some of that testing. I also tested raymond thompson restraints I still have a few of them as well.

I believe it was 07? I still have the protocol paper work from this BMP testing and here is a coyote in a live restraint from the BMP testing in a 1x19 cable restraint we used 3 different locks and 2 cable types.

Just the facts!

[trappincoyotes39]

not in 2004 nor prior ,but it has been tested. So water under a bridge. Yet you still bring up the past LOL. Hey telll BOB W over on the "other" site I said hey .....................

[RdFx]

We tested 7x7 And 7x19 and differant locks also here in Wi. I participated in the three year study in the cable restaint studies.