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Post by FWS on Dec 9, 2012 16:19:41 GMT -6
Newt Gingrich: Republicans cannot win if Hillary Clinton runs in 2016Guardian.uk December 9, 2012 Former presidential candidate calls party 'incapable of competing' if she decides on another bid for the White House Gingrich, who was House speaker during the Clinton administration, said the current Republican party would be ill-equipped to take Hillary Clinton on. Photograph: NBC It's still four years to go until the next US presidential election, but already the Republicans are having cold sweats over the prospect of facing Hillary Clinton at the ballot box, judging by the comments of Newt Gingrich. The one-time challenger for the party's 2012 White House nod expressed the thought that many of his GOP colleagues must be harbouring, but are too timid to mention: If Clinton decides to stand in 2016, they are toast. "If the competitor in 16 is going to be Hillary Clinton, supported by Bill Clinton and presumably a still relatively popular President Barack Obama, trying to win that will be truly the Super Bowl," Gingrich told Meet the Press on NBC. "And the Republican party is incapable of competing at that level." It has become the parlour game of the moment to wonder whether Clinton will run for the White House in 2016 once she stands down as secretary of state, which the New York Times says will be soon after the inauguration of Obama's second term next month. Should she decide to make a bid, her current popularity levels, at 61%, would make her a shoo-in for the Democratic nomination. Gingrich's frank words are revealing because they show how fearsome the Democratic trinity of the two Clintons and Obama appears to the Republicans. "She is married to the most popular Democrat in the country. They both think it would be good for her to be president. That makes it virtually impossible to stop her for the nomination, I think," he said Gingrich, who knows all about the terrifying powers of the Clintons having been Republican House speaker during the Bill Clinton administration, went further, saying that the Republican party in its current guise would be ill-equipped to take them on. "We didn't blow it because of Mitt Romney," he told NBC. "We blew it because of a party which has refused to engage the reality of American life and refused to think through what the average American needs for a better future." Still, Gingrich's penetrating soul-searching about the competence of the GOP to take back the White House appears not to extend to his own political suitability for the highest office. Asked whether he would put himself forward in 2016 he said: "I doubt it," but then added: "One never knows."
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Post by James on Dec 9, 2012 17:30:26 GMT -6
No sweat. All the GOP has to do is nominate Palin.
Jim
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Post by bblwi on Dec 9, 2012 19:23:49 GMT -6
If Hilary finds a capable lat 40s early 50s moderate Democrat to be her VP especially from Florida, VA, etc. she may be unbeatable if we continue the anticipated political partisanship we have working for us now.
Bryce
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 9, 2012 19:25:59 GMT -6
If Hillary becomes President then I will have voted in my LAST election...........................
Nothing more to add just the facts!
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Post by bblwi on Dec 9, 2012 20:16:56 GMT -6
I am not saying that she is the best but if you choose to drop out that is your choice. Freedom comes in many forms and creates many types of citizens with minimal consequences in many ways.
Bryce
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Post by James on Dec 9, 2012 20:45:56 GMT -6
If the GOP nominates a loser like Romney or Palin, Hillary will be a slam-dunk.
Jim
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Post by C1972 on Dec 10, 2012 3:18:46 GMT -6
The GOP will nominate Jeb Bush, if he chooses to run. Although, I think the 2000 election debacle will haunt him for the rest of his life. Especially since it was his brother that was elected and look what he and his cronies did to our nation. We'll never forget. Just my $.02.
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Post by Nick C on Dec 10, 2012 7:24:10 GMT -6
Hillary would be a great president. She has the resume and experience to do the job right. I dont agree with a lot of her positions on issues, but she is very capable of doing a good job leading this country.
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Post by FWS on Dec 10, 2012 11:48:08 GMT -6
Hey, just for the sport of it, go say that over on that other forum. And tell em' you've come to that conclusion after a talk with James.........
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Post by James on Dec 10, 2012 13:39:15 GMT -6
I advise against it, unless you enjoy having your life threatened by some unhinged sociopath.
Jim
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Post by Jarhead620 on Dec 10, 2012 17:38:12 GMT -6
You would also have to deal with a bunch of simpletons waving the Stars and Bars, signing secession petitions, and convincing themselves what great patriots they are.
Larry
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 10, 2012 18:43:29 GMT -6
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Post by FWS on Dec 10, 2012 20:16:06 GMT -6
Nothing wrong with an occasional pitchfork uprising................
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Dec 10, 2012 21:05:24 GMT -6
Isn't she getting about old enough to die? I guess one can only hope. I have about dropped out already, I'm about old enough where I think I'll just do as I please from now on.
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Post by James on Dec 10, 2012 21:51:47 GMT -6
In 2016 she'll be younger than Reagan was when first elected president, and women tend to live longer than men.
Age isn't an issue for her.
Jim
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Post by PamIsMe on Dec 10, 2012 22:30:23 GMT -6
I would think the GOP should be more worried about who THEY will run than who the Dem's will run.
I'd love to see Hillary win, lots of history making opportunities: first woman to be President, first former first lady to ever be President, first former female sentator, first former female Secretary of State........... Unfortunately I don't think she willl run.
You may not like her but she IS the most powerfu, respected and admired woman in the world these days.
Then there's Michelle Obama in another 8 years or so.............
Cheers, Pam
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Post by James on Dec 10, 2012 22:36:29 GMT -6
Pam, why don't you think she'll run?
Jim
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Dec 10, 2012 22:43:54 GMT -6
Why does being a woman have anything to do with anything?
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Post by James on Dec 10, 2012 22:45:46 GMT -6
It doesn't, so long as the next president belongs to some minority.
Jim
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Dec 10, 2012 22:57:59 GMT -6
God forbid a white man should get in huh?
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