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Post by Stef on Jan 20, 2011 20:43:52 GMT -6
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jan 20, 2011 22:01:01 GMT -6
stef do they plan on testing the jake trap for various species do you know?
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Post by Stef on Jan 20, 2011 22:18:18 GMT -6
I hope but it depends of a lot of things.
And also the manufacturer($)
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Post by Stef on Jan 20, 2011 22:20:55 GMT -6
I know that this year there was some testing done in AB for wolves.
I know that the livestock #7 was on the list, the Bridger Alaskan model and more I think.
Stef
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Post by bluegrassman on Jan 20, 2011 23:09:32 GMT -6
these are the only traps legal to use in canada?
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Post by kenmaynard on Jan 21, 2011 7:28:03 GMT -6
I certainly agree that our fur needs to be harvested humanely. The proper trap for the animal is necessary.The question I have is it appears to me that some trap producers are not having all the traps tested thus forcing us to purchase new traps, Example is Conibear has all there line on the standards list, the Woodstream Oneida Victor Conibear 280 approved for beaver the Belisle 280 classic approved for nothing?I have and use both of these traps for otter and by the catches and trap strength do not understand why the Belisle is not certified other than it was not tested.There needs to be some means to test traps other than the company submitting certain models for testing and omitting others. This method is costing us in the replacement of traps only for the fact the manufactorer wants to sell more traps.
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Post by irnhdmike on Jan 21, 2011 8:33:06 GMT -6
How abouit a photo of a Belisle selectif?
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Post by Stef on Jan 21, 2011 10:15:30 GMT -6
Know what you mean but all it takes its time.
Some were not tested yet on a particular species etc... and later... They will be approved (most of them).
In a couple minutes, I'll post a scan pictures.
The k-9s need to pull the trigger to be able to fire the trap.
When trap is fired... works the same as their other footsnare trap.
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Post by Stef on Jan 21, 2011 11:05:33 GMT -6
Belisle Sélectif  |
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jan 21, 2011 18:49:09 GMT -6
alot harder to bed than a jake!!!!!!!
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Post by Stef on Jan 21, 2011 22:04:49 GMT -6
The trap isn't set deep. The small circle near the dog.. its the pan. Its a pull trigger pan. If a fox, a skunk a bird etc... step on it, it won't fired. The bait goes right in the middle of it and when a fox try to dig it... its toe nails fire the trap, get caught between soft round steel jaws (spring steel) and later, like his old footsnare model, the springs will pull free and the animal is caught only in the footsnare. Not for me but I explained it  |
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Post by musher on Jan 22, 2011 5:06:46 GMT -6
Gadget.
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Post by tracer on Jan 22, 2011 8:22:20 GMT -6
Thanks for the link. I don't see stinger snares on the list ( snarestngr1) for coyote. Are they legal in Ontario ?
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Post by mattduncan on Jan 22, 2011 9:43:41 GMT -6
Thanks for the link. I don't see stinger snares on the list ( snarestngr1) for coyote. Are they legal in Ontario ? all depends where about's in ontario |
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Post by Stef on Jan 22, 2011 11:14:34 GMT -6
snares, fox and mink are not touched.
Each provinces have their own laws about using snares, power snares etc....
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Post by 1yoteskinner on Jan 24, 2011 7:55:16 GMT -6
It all boils down to what manufacturer pays to have his trap tested. If you don't pay, they don't test. And it isn't cheap either. Typical politics.
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Post by musher on Jan 24, 2011 12:08:50 GMT -6
It all boils down to what manufacturer pays to have his trap tested. If you don't pay, they don't test. And it isn't cheap either. Typical politics. Exactly. |
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Post by northof50 on Jan 24, 2011 15:47:34 GMT -6
That's why it cost Koro traps 10,000$ to test his traps to be certified. Someone who thought-out-of-the-box and he had to pay for it so others can see.
Maybe Gibb can chime in here since he is on the selection committee and shead a little light.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jan 24, 2011 17:43:51 GMT -6
not the case in the US, AFWA pays for the traps and does the testing for the betterment of trapping in the US. Done on a budget otherwise trap cost would rise alot and would in turn hurt trap sales for sure. Why doesn't the CA govt pay for this testing? Or charge 3.00-6.00 per trapping license sold to cover some of the cost?
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Post by Stef on Jan 24, 2011 18:08:01 GMT -6
39, I think they pay for the testing what the committee choose.
But, if a manufacturer wants his trap to be tested as soon as possible, he will have to pay.
When a tested trap could meet our standard... The manufacturer will have to pay to get it certified.
If I'm not correct, please clarify it
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