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Post by seitzinger on Dec 16, 2010 18:00:58 GMT -6
I am totally new to calling coyotes, went this morning in a decent snow storm for around here. I thought it would be a good time to be out, but we did not have any luck. Just trying to get some good information about calling. On a 20 min. stand how long do you spend calling? Do you incorporate howling in with the distress calls? and any other info to get a beginner going. Thanks for the advise in advance!
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 16, 2010 18:54:58 GMT -6
right before or after a snow storm will have many predators out looking to fill their belly. 20 mins is a good average per stand . I start out at this time of year with a distress sound play it-make it for 1- 1.5 mintues lower volume wait 3-5 and then do again if no sign of anything. When done with distress you can make a yonger coyote lone howl.
Mian thing make sure your calling to coyotes otherwise your stand will be unproductive more than productive. Locate them at night and then you know the areas there in for the next day. Play the wind right, keep a low profile entering areas you know to have coyotes, if they see you your results will be far less. Keep the sun at your back or side. Blend in and exparament with using different sounds and combo's. You won't learn unless your willing to make a few mistakes.
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Post by seitzinger on Dec 17, 2010 10:08:56 GMT -6
I appreciate the information, but let me ask a stupid question. You say locate the night before, but maybe give me some pointers on how you do this. How do you figure that in a few hours that the coyotes will still be around the next morning and maybe somewhere they weren't the night before? Not trying to tell you that your wrong, I have never tried and don't know how just trying to think of all the situations.
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Post by ksboy2 on Dec 17, 2010 13:36:45 GMT -6
cloudy 25 degrees no moon 2" fresh powder wind from the north at 2 mph consistent
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 17, 2010 16:12:33 GMT -6
those coyotes will be in the same "general" area that you located the night before. Do it just at dark when many are just starting to move around and most coyotes will be within a 5x5 mile area by howling or using a siren at night you can know where and how many coyotes are in that area. You can then get a good map and see hwere they will lay up durring the day and make a few stands and be onto a new group of coyotes down the road, versus calling areas you think there might be coyotes.
With the higher coyote densities you have in IN should be able to pin down on 1-3 calling stands where they are laid up durring the day and find the best appraoch for you to get in there un detected, again versus just comming in and bumping some of those coyotes.
Best weather to call in for me: Pre located den the night prior Wait until the sun has been up 1 hr or so to allow adults to get back to the den Sunny and 60 and a wind from the west at 10 -15 MPH Get into 1/4 mile or so of the den undetected and game on.
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Post by lb on Dec 25, 2010 12:22:42 GMT -6
"On a 20 min. stand how long do you spend calling?" Assume you are asking about pauses? I would recommend continuous sound with an ecaller, and just enough pauses to catch your breath, with mouth blown.
I somewhat disagree on locating, as far as doing so the night before because, as I gather from your question, you think they move around quite a bit and I would agree with that, especially this time of year. Some places I hunt, they bed down in canyons during the day, 5/10 miles away from the flats where they course rabbits all night long. Things may be different where you are.
I just returned from a hunt in Canada, where there are shelter belts everywhere surrounding large fields where locals plant wheat, primarily. These coyotes live under dense spruce and poplar, which is almost impenetrable. They don't come out in the open without a good reason. Therefore, locating has value, since all you can hope for is to spot them at the edge, looking at your setup, while waiting in a snow dugout.
Anyway, as with most info about coyotes, some applies and some don't.
Best time to call is right after a snowfall, if it's fairly calm? Normally, night hunting is the very best on a new moon with high pressure. Daytime, I like overcast with light flurries, for action all day long. El Bee
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jan 3, 2011 17:09:50 GMT -6
lb all about coyote denisties of course and it seems the state of IN has a good density of coyotes judged from 1080' s trapping vids.
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