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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jan 28, 2004 16:04:11 GMT -6
Top is a sterling thats about 14 years old the standard mj600, next is the older version with the Ogorman modified pan, wish they would do that yet today, look at that kill area! This trap has caught alot of coyote through the years, notice the old 2 pieace spring still strong as all get out! Next is the new coyote cuff#33 becoming another favorite of mine www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p03df54e4244c273e637b376f7b61483e/f9ca08ca.jpg [/img]
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jan 28, 2004 16:06:07 GMT -6
Got to love them heavy cast jaws and excellent springs
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Post by pacoontrapper on Jan 28, 2004 16:11:13 GMT -6
Some nice looking traps for sure, but I think the pan on the middle one is too big. I can easily see a yote foot landing on both the pan and the jaw causing a miss.
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Post by Stef on Jan 28, 2004 16:23:46 GMT -6
Nice traps! Weird things here in Canada As most of you guys know already that so far, the only traps who will be approved here in Canada in 2007, are the Bridger #3 double laminated, 5/16th Off set etc... and the Belisle foot snare. I heard that the Coyote cuff #33 did not meet the testing standard. I don't know all the details but one thing for sure is that I really like those jaws on the #22 and the #33. I'm sure that they could re-do the testing and maybe if their lucky, the trap could meet the standard. Bridger #3 passed the testing but on their A$$. Stef
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Post by trappnman on Jan 28, 2004 16:27:29 GMT -6
So all your coyote traps will have to be Bridgers #3?
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Post by Stef on Jan 28, 2004 16:31:09 GMT -6
So far
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jan 28, 2004 16:41:48 GMT -6
pa coontrapper, not with a bottom jaw guard, these are awsome traps with the enlarged pan, and unless your in sugar sand no pan cover really needed. I wish Glen would bring them back with these pan, very few misses, when these go off the coyote is there period. I don't understand why the #33 didn't pass your test Stef? I would retry them on testing as these newer ones, have a 3/8th offset, I bet the testing was with the old 1/4" offset, they still did little damage, but with the 3/8" these are one beauty of a coyote trap! Notice the extra heavy chain these will hold any critter that gets into them, I have been told Mt Lions have been caught and held well in these.
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Post by pacoontrapper on Jan 28, 2004 16:55:43 GMT -6
Didnt know that, thanks for the education.
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Post by PAMINK on Jan 28, 2004 17:13:30 GMT -6
The Bridger #3 with Coyote Cuff jaws installed is a nice setup. It's Z approved. ;D Terry
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Post by Stef on Jan 28, 2004 17:39:21 GMT -6
trappincoyotes35, I modified my post aboved for the off set on the Bridger. I don't have power for those testing you know? Another thing that I know is in 2002 they tried the Bridger #2 laminated on top only and it did not meet the standard. They tested again this year ( 2003 ) but laminated inside and on top of jaws. Did not hear anything yet. Like I said, the Bridger #3 just passed by a small %. The problem now is not really the paws damaged, its the tooth where most good traps failed. Think we really need a 100% rubber traps, just boil and go, no wax, kids proof....Oh well Stef
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jan 28, 2004 18:27:23 GMT -6
stef that was the top and bottom laminated trap correct? I wonder how one trap can pass and others all being steel traps can't cut the mustard? I don't know your guys testing standards but must be way tougher than ours.
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Post by Stef on Jan 28, 2004 19:42:59 GMT -6
Yeah, 1/4 round bottom, 3/16th on top, 5/16"OS.
Even the Belisle foot snare was almost in the ditch because of tooth damaged.
They stopped testing with staked traps and went to drags and that cut a lot of tooth damaged.
This year, they were again testing staked traps but with 9' of chain. We'll see if short chain addicted will freak out or not???
Stef
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Post by briankroberts on Jan 28, 2004 20:18:07 GMT -6
9' of chain, I'd have to give up my thumper and get a gun!!!!!.....B.....
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