#2 bridgers mods and a twist

[trappincoyotes39]

I am always looking at traps and like to research them so I bought a few of these brdiger #2 offsets and added PIT to them and a few other extras to try out, the twist is instead of welding on the "keystock" I used JB weld "quick weld" looks like this will hold nicely and will keep the PIT dogs from getting bent up as much. Seems quicker than welding to me and sets up in 15 mins hard as a rock. Will test them out and see how they hold up.

I ordered the PIT pans from F&T and they have 2 sizes for the 2&3 bridgers this is called the medium pan and centers better between the jaws of these #2's versus the "standard" 2&3 size PIT pans.

[crichards]

you must use rebar.......no 2 bridger is my go to trap

[trappincoyotes39]

yes I do and also the chestnut ring is good for drags and even cable stakes, they are very versitile. But hard to break away from rebar all together. You can quick link chain and a drag and you keep good swivel action with this chain setup.

A larger jaw spread trap is my preferance for coyotes, but I want to test these out on a few different critters and see the performance compaired to my old stand by's. I like to keep things interesting and learning.

[GaTrapper]

I had a dozen #2s with the PITs on them but I just took them off. All of them sat way up above the jaws. Back to a regular nightlatched pan.

[trappincoyotes39]

ga trapper 2 things needed to get them below the jaws close the slop in the dog eye and bend the back frame forward, you can get them plenty low as with the PIT system they go off very quickly when the right pressure is applied and very little pan travel with them.

The built in tension makes the critter commit enough weight that I have had no issues with shallow catches on my #3 bridgers with them at all.

[crichards]

My main beef on posi-trip is the spring pin will move out of the groove and needs repositioned........but guess one could use the holddown clip JC uses on his taos springs

[trappincoyotes39]

I never had much of an issue of the pin being moved out of the groove but all mine are 4 coiled traps, I have had coyotes knock them from one side or other but a quick tap with the hammer and things are square again, they take more abuse than a standard pan IMO. Plus easy to have pan tension and no monkeying around filing dogs or pans

[freepop]

That JB weld is pretty brittle, be interesting to see if it holds up.

[robertw]

I think it will be gone after one season if that trap see 3-4 catches.

[trappincoyotes39]

time will tell. I ain't out nothing if it doesn't hold.

[freepop]

Might be out a trap dog but you would've anyway. Remember to let us know if it works.

[bfflobo]

Think I would just go ahead and weld them NOW and save your self some troubles.

[cmr2]

the trouble will be cleaning it off to weld ,the arc don't like the J B at all

[trappincoyotes39]

the point is to test things out and see if it works or not. if they break off I will use them as they came and buy replacements and weld the keystock on the next go round.

[seldom]

Oct 3, 2010 19:11:58 GMT -6 trappincoyotes39 said:

time will tell. I ain't out nothing if it doesn't hold.

Nothing ventured, Nothing gained!

[trappincoyotes39]

here is the ratings for this product . again I'm no enginner but looks strong enough to hold a trap dog together against a coyote. We shall see, I'm others guinea pig.

Properties (psi)

Tensile Strength: 2100
Adhesion: 1800
Flex Strength: 7320
Tensile Lap Shear: 1040
Shrinkage: 0.0%
Resistant to: 300° F

[trappnman]

Properties (psi)

Tensile Strength: 2100
Adhesion: 1800
Flex Strength: 7320
Tensile Lap Shear: 1040
Shrinkage: 0.0%
Resistant to: 300° F


under lab conditions- the strength of the bond is going to depend on a lot of things outside the lab.

BUT- on something like the dog, i'd guess it would work more than I think it wouldn't. the weakness of "instant" weldings etc is in movement- vibrations, etc are hard on it, but just chewing shouldn't loosen it-

keep us posted

[Bob Jameson]

I tested and used JB weld epoxy many years ago. Sounded good on the package description but performance wise it didnt work for me on any application.Didnt work on an oil pan leak,radiator perferation or trap bonding. Maybe it will work better for you.I wont buy it again.Short term only holding ability.Cant beat a mig weld spot.

[trappincoyotes39]

I have used the waterproof varity on a galvinized pipe and it has held and leak proof going on 4 years now.

Exactly what I want to test Tman, all it has to do is keep the dog straight and take some chewing will dye/wax them and soon enough I will know.

Never said it would replace a mig weld and I wouldn't use it for jaw laminations or base plating but in this case I found it faster to mix and apply than channel locks and a mig weld on each dog "IF" it works out will be a time saver, "IF" not, oh well.

I tired moving the key stock with a vice grips, "no dice" held firmly in place, I will see after dying and waxing and use how long it will last for this application.

[freepop]

As with any epoxy, the materials should be rough sanded and then cleaned very good to get the best bang for your buck. Proper preparation will yeild a huge difference in results than basically no preparation at all. I've had it work quite good for me in some applications but as I indicated, I saw that it seemed to brittle for some applications.