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Post by Mudcat on Aug 3, 2010 21:01:54 GMT -6
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Post by musher on Aug 4, 2010 13:08:57 GMT -6
Is that a jagd?
Looks pretty intense as far as hunting goes. Not for the fat and lazy!
What happens when you meet the quarry? Doesn't it just take off again?
Thanks for the photos and explanation.
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Post by Ross on Aug 4, 2010 14:07:35 GMT -6
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Post by musher on Aug 4, 2010 14:40:51 GMT -6
Great site! Thanks.
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Post by Mudcat on Aug 4, 2010 20:52:56 GMT -6
It is a small Patterdale. The quarry is pushed to a stop end and held there till we dig down to them and then we usually try and tail the game out if the dig is not to deep or just use a snare. When you have 3 or 4 hunting with you, the digging is not bad at all. I will use the snare on all the big coon. lol
Best regards,
Mudcat
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Post by musher on Aug 5, 2010 11:02:56 GMT -6
Is a Patterdale a Lakeland(?) or is it really a different dog (i.e. hunting machine as opposed to show sissy.)
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Post by Mudcat on Aug 9, 2010 16:07:19 GMT -6
They are basically the same. Some lines are hard while some are mixers and some bayers.
Mudcat
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Post by braveheart on Aug 23, 2010 6:14:33 GMT -6
Got to love them Black dogs.Do you T.Weaver down New Orleans?What line of dogs do ya have?
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Post by orcatdog on Sept 10, 2010 13:18:18 GMT -6
I agree with Braveheart - gotta love the little black dogs! Probably won't go without one ever again. I have got scared a little sending him down holes. He is a little too tall, but he has done it. Bridger's parents were used to den coyote pups, and will also get badgers in holes. Hell of a fight, but if they can get ahold of it by the face, they won't let go. Have some pics somewhere and trying to find so I can post. Bridger finds my cats and yotes on drags as well as he runs with my hounds. I wish some of my hounds had his heart.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 14, 2010 8:32:26 GMT -6
you running collars on those dogs down in the holes?
after a encounter in a bulldozed brush pile with a beagle many years ago, I always take the collars off whne running dogs that are going ot stay close-
far ranging bigger hounds, coon, etc- thats a different story
but for dogs you know are going to be in holes, piles- no more for me
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Post by redsnow on Sept 15, 2010 6:15:32 GMT -6
You know, I've looked at these pics, the dirt/soil is nothing but sand. I'll tell you, if you'd broadcast your dogs around here, you'd go home empty handed. and heartbroken. We've got places where you can't get a beep, just across the next ridge 500 yards away. Turn your dogs loose, and they're gone, don't know if they are up/down/east or west. Not sure what kind of reading you have with your tracking collars?, youu'd walk your butt off, maybe never find it.
I only have one dog now, but when she trees something in a hole, it's time to find another one. It'd take 2 guys an hour to dig a "gate-post" hole around here, that's with a diggin bar, snaps, and a shovel. And a 6-pk. Darned if i'd do all of that for a groundhog, I'll swing by the next morn/eve, with my rifle and pick it off. Dog hunting is supposed to be fun! Cut em in the wind, stand back and listen, head em off at the pass.
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Post by musher on Sept 15, 2010 18:18:30 GMT -6
Can't the dog get out on its own by backing up?
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Post by redsnow on Sept 21, 2010 8:16:23 GMT -6
I've waited about a week for one of the guys to answer about the dogs backing out. Look at the one pic of the dog in the hole, looks to me like the dog is on it's side, with it's front legs tucked, and behind it. Maybe kicking/pushing itself forward with it's back legs? Hard to tell from a still picture. So, not sure, but it looks to me like it's in a bind.
Some of the chuck holes around here are only 5 inches across, if the dog would kick out a rock the size of your fist behind it, he'd be screwed.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 21, 2010 17:33:57 GMT -6
the problem is, the collar can get caught when backing up- had it happen once- and once was enough-
some I know used to run elastic break away collars
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Post by calvin on Sept 21, 2010 23:50:22 GMT -6
Appears to be a lot of risk (dog wise) and work for a coon or badger.
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Post by braveheart on Sept 22, 2010 5:20:48 GMT -6
The collars I had had a location beeper on it.They go down to 15 ft.It will get you real close to the dogs it is pretty accurate on depth.On wood chucks the dogs have a ruff time backing out.I to on brush piles take the collar off so the dogs can move around better.
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Post by redsnow on Sept 25, 2010 4:51:01 GMT -6
I'm not familiar with these "little black dogs", let me ask: How much do the little things weigh?, how tall are they at the shoulder?
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Post by braveheart on Sept 26, 2010 5:42:52 GMT -6
Some guy's are breeding Patts up to 30 lbs.I like mine about 15lb. and leggy.They are good for all around work.I seen some this weekend that at 10 weeks look to be the monster size good for only barns.
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Post by musher on Sept 26, 2010 16:56:41 GMT -6
I'd want a leggy 30 pounder. That way it could hold its own with the huskies. I'd also not have to worry about the dang thing going down a hole.
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