A new coyote rifle I have on order!

[trappincoyotes39]

Will be awhile before I see this gun, but can't wait! This should be one dandy coyote killer! I hear these newer savages with both accu trigger and accu stock are very accurate!!!!!

Anyone else have one of these?

www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/10PREDATORHUNTERMAX1

[stickbowhntr]

what caliber? and I hear nothing but good about all of them.

[trappincoyotes39]

.243 is my favorite coyote caliber.

I like this as it has the 24" barrel and not the 22" plus the accu stock and DB magazine. My remington has a 26" heavy barrel shoots great and drops coyotes dead, but thinking when I go on longer hikes even 1.5 -2 lbs weight differance would be a benefit.


Never owned a savage always a remington guy so this should be fun to work up a load for this gun. Going with the Elite 3200 3x9 with DOA reticle and will try 85,90 and 95 grain bullets. Nosler brass is awsome stuff.

[stickbowhntr]

YOU MAY WANT to try some of the Laupa stuff [brass], the palma [just in .308] could be sized to fit and is a chore but it has small primes and falsh holes that would help with primo accuarracy[did that for my custom switch barrel .243 Imp ans .25 super]..I have always been a Rem man myself untill this recent supply of CZ's.

[trappincoyotes39]

I tried the lapua .243 brass and I found it to be to hard for my liking, chatters over the sizer button even the carbide one in my die. I like the nosler brass as it comes weight sorted,deburred and is good brass, a tad softer than the laupua and works really smooth in my redding dies.

I use alot of H extreme powders very consistant and winchester primers give me very low SD like 14 fps in the load in my rem .243. I use 95 grain nolsers and 41 grains of h-4350 gives me 2980 fps and sd of 14 and consistant groups of 5/8" at 100 yrds.

[stickbowhntr]

I haven't used anything but Fed match since my bench rest days but sounds like you do know whats what...good luck, and yes they are a little harder but man I do like small primers pockets and flash holes....also I use no sizer buttons as I use in line dies and only size down like -.003 or 4 for snug on my buttons but no expander ball.

[trappincoyotes39]

I have not tried fed match primers, did try CCI BR's and rems and fed standard and I get my best SD with winchesters and in fact they also give me more FPS over the crono as well. I think hotter than the other but with more stability as well. The CCI BR's where the slowest and also had more SD than the winchesters.

I like to load above 90% case capacity and I think the wins being hotter gives more uniform burn rates hence the reason for the lower SD's. That can change with powder types as well, but like I said very partial to any of the H extreme series powders, I try them first for any loads and most of the time one performs well.

[lb]

Fed 210Match is all I use, for large rifle applications. I have never been impressed with CCI primers. Well, I take that back, because I use some Rem 9½ in one of two rifles of the same chambering, and for the same reason that I use strictly hollow points, my method for not mixing ammunition, in the field. One gun gets spitzers and silver primers while the other gets HP's and brass primers...not to mention WW and Lapua cases. Sudden thought, I wonder if I could actually kill some critter with loads developed for the other gun?.

And, as Stickb said, I also use Wilson hand dies whenever possible and don't feel like it's an exceptionally slow process, compared to sizing in a press. With all the elaborate and detailed steps I take, that's the least of my worries. Hardly a speedy process, but I don't mind, since (apparently) I am totally ANAL when it comes to my handloading for accuracy.

[trappincoyotes39]

LB I have thought about alot of "stuff" a guy could "need" when it comes to reloading and with my obsessive nature adding many things to chase .25" would be scary LOL.

I keep things fairly simple for loading coyote ammo and other critter ammo, redding dies very nice and smooth, hand primer from RCBS works well. Good quality brass Nosler is my choice. Trim cases as needed mainly when they need a partial sizing to work again in my bolt guns, otherwise I neck size only up until that point. I will be getting the run out gauge from hornady to see how well what I'm doing works as far as run out, but I find loads that shoot consistant and have good accuracy for hunting applications, those that get into serious paper punching well that is awhole nother level of "anal" IMO.

There was a guy on a shooting site that tested primers for mositure effects and his testing of water, oils (mineral) and wd-40 soaked primers revield that the WW primers had the best "bang" rating after each was soaked in the liquid for 24 hrs, If I remember right the CCI's rated poorly followed by other brands can't remember the order. But the WW's had the best% of firing after submersiion.

[stickbowhntr]

LB if he or you want to use a press try neil jones threaded sizing dies[they also take busings and no epander ball] ...but with a little experence you would be surprised how many really well taliored loads come from them dies per 1/2 hour....lol...

[lb]

Large rifle primers come in different diameters, believe it or not. I think that can have a serious effect on tightness in the primer pocket, which, (I suppose) would be why they would still function after soaking for 24 hours? I am not impressed with submersion results. I mean, what's that supposed to prove, anyway? I take pretty good care of my handloads and if I rolled my truck into a creekbed, I'd probably not be hunting that afternoon anyway? I have some of that nail polish stuff for sealing primers, had it a long time and never felt the need to actually use it....maybe on my next Canadian adventure; which, by the way will be soon, September, actually. Wow, I need to start getting organized, fast approaching!

[trappincoyotes39]

I like those test as it does show me something when it comes to construction and mositure over periods. I don't mean to drop my ammo in the creek for hours on end, but I do know they give me more FPS than any other primer in standard versions and I like the confidance in knowing they not only shoot well but can handle more extremes.

LB this wasn't a test of primers in the case but primers in the raw then pushed into the cases and fired with no powder or bullet just the sound of the primers going pop. It seems to me the wd-40 had the most effect overall on all brands, could be the penetraiting properties of wd-40?