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Post by GaTrapper on Jul 19, 2010 0:06:58 GMT -6
#3 Bridger Levers on a #2 Bridger. Higher lock up and sets easier.   |
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Post by monttrap04 on Jul 19, 2010 11:43:33 GMT -6
Looks nice.
Also, If you ever end up with any low lever Montgomeries you can add bridger levers to get a much higher locking point. Pretty cheap way to drastically improve that trap IMO.
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Post by deanchapel on Jul 19, 2010 11:55:20 GMT -6
Looks nice. Also, If you ever end up with any low lever Montgomeries you can add bridger levers to get a much higher locking point. Pretty cheap way to drastically improve that trap IMO. Is that using #3 bridger levers on a #2 montgomery or # 2 bridger levers? |
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Post by monttrap04 on Jul 19, 2010 13:42:19 GMT -6
I have added #2 bridger levers on a #2 Monty. I am assuming the #3 bridgers would work on the #3 montys. I think O'g may even mention something to that effect in his catalog.
To me the #2 bridgers come up plenty high just as they are.
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Post by motrapperjohn on Jul 19, 2010 17:58:46 GMT -6
Bad side! Got to move more dirt when firing. Frozen ground = more misses.
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Post by JWarren on Jul 19, 2010 18:03:47 GMT -6
the contact point is only about a millimeter higher
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Post by GaTrapper on Jul 19, 2010 18:41:52 GMT -6
So should someone not set a #3 size trap then if they have to worry so much about dirt. I dont have hard freezing conditions here. Im not worried about it.
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Post by mickm on Jul 19, 2010 20:36:45 GMT -6
Stupid question.
Why?
I have never had trouble with stock #2 bridgers holding yotes. Short chain and ad a swivel.
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Post by GaTrapper on Jul 19, 2010 21:13:34 GMT -6
Got a pair of #3 levers so I thought what the hell and tried it. Works pretty darn good.
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Post by motrapperjohn on Jul 20, 2010 8:18:12 GMT -6
Its a leverage thing, anytime you increase the length from a certian pivot piont, it, as you said, makes it easier to set.On the other side of that piont it uses up more energy to move that length, thus slowing that movement down. You might not have to deal with frozen ground, but you do have a lot of clay.Thats why a lot of people use 4-coils when traping in heavy clay or freezing conditions
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Post by johncrcloud on Jul 21, 2010 22:52:21 GMT -6
I agree with Carliss ! there is things thatt you can do to help a trap to hold and to fire but youll cripple it with the bigger levers IMO Mudd is just as heavy as frozen ground
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Post by Wright Brothers on Jul 22, 2010 5:16:05 GMT -6
This is the kind of thing I'd like to see that CAD program compare by those engineer guys on here. If that were possible.
And no, I don't think an advantage in "that" application, from my view, actually I see disadvantage. Low lever monties yes #2 lever for #2 etc., Bridger no.
Nothing wrong with tinkering Ga, it's cheap clean legal fun. and one way to learn new things.
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Post by GaTrapper on Jul 22, 2010 8:47:34 GMT -6
I'm just not understanding the stigma that is following bigger levers?
They are completely fine on a #3 Bridger but aren't on a #2? Then I get the argument that the #3 is stronger. I am running after market #3/#4 music wire springs on the trap.
I might not do this on all my traps. This could be the only trap I ever do this do. Im just trying to understand the validity of the argument.
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Post by Jason Dufresne on Jul 22, 2010 9:36:11 GMT -6
No need to understand the validity of the argument.
The proof is in the testing, if it works for you and you like it that way, then do 'em up.
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Post by calvin on Jul 22, 2010 9:53:58 GMT -6
The only argument I see is "IS" ease of setting ( I still use my feets) worth more lever in the ground...and having to come up through it. As far as higher lock up, isn't that a feature of the jaws? I still remember cutting the ears off my old Victor 1.75s back in the day. Harder to set but less drag. Always a trade off. Not an argument...just a perception.
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Post by mickm on Jul 22, 2010 10:24:16 GMT -6
I think JAson nailed it.
I'm not a trap tinkerer. I file dogs, add swivels and shorten chains. Thats it, and never had trouble holding game since I understood if the coyote gets their foot in the trap to start with it really helps!
With that said, if it feels good do it!
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Jul 22, 2010 16:20:12 GMT -6
One problem with too big of an ear is that you risk losing cats in heavy brush. I lost one once in the willows. I could see where he squeezed between two stems and pulled out.
I heard someone say he saw a coyote get two hind feet on a traps levers while pulling and let itself out.
Probably once in a blue moon but something to consider.
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Post by 17HMR on Jul 23, 2010 6:05:35 GMT -6
My first experience with cat on a drag turned out the same way as Joel, except it went up a tree and released its self on a Y branch.
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Post by motrapperjohn on Jul 23, 2010 14:58:51 GMT -6
Waddell had a lion open a J-hook on a chain and get away, but he was still able to track it to a woven wire fence, where the levers got hung in the fence and was able to release itself.
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Post by crichards on Jul 29, 2010 12:14:51 GMT -6
One problem with too big of an ear is that you risk losing cats in heavy brush. I lost one once in the willows. I could see where he squeezed between two stems and pulled out. I heard someone say he saw a coyote get two hind feet on a traps levers while pulling and let itself out. Probably once in a blue moon but something to consider. Did he reset for the neighboring rival pack? |
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