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Post by freepop on Jul 17, 2010 10:31:06 GMT -6
What do you consider a large amount of coyotes trapped at a location in a season?
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Jul 17, 2010 14:42:48 GMT -6
I caught 19 in two sets over about a 3 week period once. Caught 58 out of a 3 square mile pasture surrounded by several thousand additional acres over about a month. Caught 70+ in a 10 mile stretch of creek bottom once in 3 weeks. Knew another guy I was camping with that did about the same.
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Post by robertw on Jul 17, 2010 14:49:49 GMT -6
Caught 9 in one trap in Wyoming with out ever moving the trap.
Caught 42 in one 80 acre pasture in Mississippi one winter.
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Post by jim on Jul 18, 2010 5:06:49 GMT -6
When you have numbers like that you could have a check law that all sets would be checked by noon or even 10am every day. When you can run more than 100 miles a day for a couple a day It would be nice to have a 48 hour check. Jim
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Post by Wright Brothers on Jul 18, 2010 6:42:22 GMT -6
Five.
All same color phase and suspected locals and I knew the den locall. I have to wonder how much feed it takes to raise those.
They weren't 20 lbers either.
I know some of those "travelways" in my area. Getting on them is another story. I suspect that is WHY that travelway is where it is. Not the big wide open over here and those dogs adapt quick, or die.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Jul 18, 2010 7:34:16 GMT -6
We trap cats like you describe Bob. Twenty miles between sets many times, usually at least a couple. Roads like petrified watermelon patches make a couple of miles seem like 20.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jul 18, 2010 7:40:10 GMT -6
OH BOB.........................................
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Post by freepop on Jul 18, 2010 8:47:58 GMT -6
Vey interesting and good stories. Thank you all.
I have a couple spots that produced 6 and after watching Clint's video he made a comment about a good location that got 5 this year and 5 last. Thus my question.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Jul 18, 2010 9:29:18 GMT -6
I know a guy that has caught close to 40 cats under one tree since I showed him how to trap 20 years ago. Another guy that has well over a hundred off of one ridge in the past 30 years.
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Post by Wright Brothers on Jul 18, 2010 11:39:24 GMT -6
10 more than anyone else that posts. There, that better? lofl
He asked trap location, not travelway. If you guys are catching that many resident coyotes off of one location, never mind. So much for the your only there 4 days tops.
How about a computer program that will, show topo map, then overlay habitat, then overlay ownership, I can think of a few more overlays too, that is travelway. Location is where I CAN set, not always where I WANT to set.
I knew this would bring out the I get more. The question that comes to my mind when that happens is. Why in the heck would you WANT to catch 867 coyotes x the milage to do it, at $15 each? Oh thats right, you guys furs are worth MORE than mine, LOFL.
You pro trapper guys ever want to tap these Easterns that knowone else knows how to, I got a cabin you can use, no charge. Bring your cam corder.
Hey just trying to incite a rio, er discusion, Yeah, hot and humid here again.
Wanted to say this again.
How about a computer program that will, show topo map, then overlay habitat, then overlay ownership, I can think of a few more overlays too, that is travelway. Location is where I CAN set, not always where I WANT to set.
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Post by mickm on Jul 18, 2010 11:47:10 GMT -6
not aware of a topo that shows dead piles or tracks.
How about just getting out and looking at it?
Sorry, seems like these days folks would rather find another computer program to do what folks can do without.
I know,
I know, I'm a dinosaur.
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Post by Wright Brothers on Jul 18, 2010 11:50:27 GMT -6
Some of us just might be a little older than you think.
That cabin is open. This aint Kansas.
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Post by Scott W. on Jul 18, 2010 12:53:00 GMT -6
Wright Brothers, I've seen where something like google earth(but not) will show topo or aerial. The ownership overlay is elusive. www.digital-topo-maps.com/ Try this. Let me know what you think, or if you have found a better one. Scott |
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Post by mickm on Jul 18, 2010 15:15:30 GMT -6
OK,
I'm lost.
I'm just not in favor of technology to replace hard word. I have see a bunch of folks talk about Topo's, and they are ok. I sure haven't see that they are as good as getting out and looking at the area.
Thats all I was trying to say.
I think good spots can be found on Topo, great spots have to be eye balled.
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Post by Wright Brothers on Jul 18, 2010 15:24:18 GMT -6
Couldn't agree more Mick. I'm lost too.
He said 100 bucks a peice over there where 1080 and them ran.
Unless the name on his shed is, "the ditch".
100 bucks a peice? If so I can see where many per location a good thing.
100 each? The Ditch? Must be nice to be youns.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jul 18, 2010 15:34:06 GMT -6
google earth can save a guy alot of miles if he knows where is when looking at it. Also you can oput in way points from there and when in the area find that exact location, beats putting on many extra miles in a truck at times for sure!!!!
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Post by Scott W. on Jul 18, 2010 15:56:12 GMT -6
I'm not saying that technology can trump on the ground scouting, but I think it makes me more efficient.
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Post by freepop on Jul 18, 2010 16:30:02 GMT -6
100 each? The Ditch? Must be nice to be youns. This is the second time I saw you say "youns". Hadn't heard it in a long time, Gramma used to live in Charleroi, PA. Made me think of her, she was a wonderful person. |
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jul 18, 2010 16:49:52 GMT -6
The rancher at times can be a great help as they are out there day in and day out many times they have saved me time, plus many of those will be denned up realative to past denning locations many of them within caller shot and you have the problem solved. Far quicker than traps in cases. A plane can cover more "open" habitat than any man on the ground, depending on cover of course. Also locating can make finding those dens far faster as not all areas offer tracking capabilites durring the summer either.
Water is a constant in many areas in relation to denning locations.
Good maps are helpful, it is like Bob stating his coyotes are all grizzly old buggars in areas of high pressure, coyotes don't make it to old ages by working the "normal areas" and your not going to find higher numbers either in those old coyote haunts many are going to be in locations most wouldn't dream about looking. I have found these areas out becuase of the airplane at times, right after our deer season the cover has been beat hard and where they find these coyotes, well one just has to look it all over and figure out why they are where they are for that time peiod.
Bob should forgo coyotes and start in on killin 190+ class whitetails as you could sell those racks for alot of money, but of course you have to be in an area that offers that animal in the first place as all the hard work in the world don't produce what isn't out there in the first place.
This 0801 has to be Bob or 1080 as know one has 123,872 post besides the old master himself LOL.
Texas coyotes denities and denning locations are much closer to each other becuase of numbers and prey base, each area of the US differs in many aspects not one size fits all for sure.
Bob I would like to see your denning skills in action you really should come out some time, I have a few that we could test your skills on. Seriously.
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Post by BadDog on Jul 18, 2010 18:13:17 GMT -6
Talk is cheap  very, very cheap |
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