reveived my new jake traps!

[trappincoyotes39]

Received 1 dox Jakes from JC the other day, I want to test them well against my go to coyote trap the sterling. I want to see foot placement, holding ability, feet from coyotes, and overall performance. I want to see how long the pads hold up. They are a well built trap but some changes from the few older ones I have.

The new ones are all riveted together not good or bad just different, I see JC has done the same type of base plating as Glen Jr switch to with the smaller MJ the dimpled base to add strength and decrease some weight of the trap. I like the adjustable pan tension, the strong springs, they way the pads look to bite into one another, and having the shock springs on them aids in stake pumping. I have these installed on some of my sterlings.

Time will tell but should be interesting testing.

[northwind]

Looking forward to your comparison! I have a few doz. I'll be using this year.

[musher]

I like them a lot.

Not too hard on a red and holds a timber.

[robertw]

They work better with out the pads. The pads will only last as far as the first few coons.

[trappincoyotes39]

Robert I'm going to try 6 with and 6 without to see the differance.

[robertw]

Take one with the pads on and go set it in some clay, then wet it dowing like a 1" rain then come back 24 hours later and fire it and see how it functions. You'll want to use them with out the pads.

Good decision using some with out the pads, you'll need the extra pads in a month or so to keep the pads on the other six.

[trappincoyotes39]

well we have plenty of gray gumbo in this area that is why one needs 4 coiled traps period, not to mention that stuff is hard on steel so waxing is mandatory.

Will try both ways and see what happens thanks.

[Zagman]

My experience with the Jake rubbers is the polar opposite of Robert's......frankly, I have never replaced a set yet.

I dont catch as many coon on my canine line, but still get 12-15 during my vacation line. They seem to have plenty of room under the jaws to monkey with their own paw and seem to leave the rubbers alone.

I am talking about more than 6-12 Jakes for sure and this is over the course of several seasons.

Not being argumentive or doubting anyone else's experiences......just noting my experiences as well.

There are pro's and con's to all traps.......since Randy is a Sterling man, he will note that there is an extra step in cleaning a Jake vs. the offset Sterling in that you have to open everyone up to get the grass, hay, straw, fur out of the tight gripping rubber jaws, if that matters to you.

Randy, there are several versions of the Jake. When you accumulate them the way I did 2 here, three there, dozen here, two dozen there, you get to see a bunch of changes over the years....jaw posts, pan posts, welded vs. riveted, etc. The welded traps and the base plates thereof were a little heavier in the hand.

Got a good deal on a bunch of Jakes a couple of years ago when I really did not need anymore. A buddy of mine did want them and he wanted all the welded ones he could get his hands on, even trading me new riveted ones for older welded versions.

Said he was "old fashioned" and trusted the welds more than the rivets.

Whether you like the trap or not, you cannot argue as the the quality and durability.......whether riveted or welded, they are not going to fall apart on you.

MZ

[robertw]

I like the trap, but with out the pads.

[mean1]

RobertW, Do you laminate or are you useing them stock after removing the pads? On a 24hr catch I have not had but a very few pad replacements, maybe 3 over 4 seasons with about 80 jake traps. I have noticed if you catch something in them with the pads on it's best to clean the dirt and grit out the rubber pads for the next catch with a wire brush if your worried about foot damage. I could see a lot more damage to the pads on a longer check time with coons and skunks.

DM

[trappincoyotes39]

Good to hear of other results with the pads! I will try them both ways and see how it goes. I have no problem with the power these traps have, of running them with pads, provided they do what I expect of them, I will look at catches from both the padded and unpadded useage.

Mean: no lamination would be needed as you bolt back on the top strap and adds to the jaw width, my only concern would be seeing more cutting/foot damage as they still aren't as thick as a sterling jaw or have the round contour, more straight lined. I know I'm not a big fan of removing the pads more time consuming than running them with pads. 8 bolts on and off per trap.

[trappincoyotes39]

Got them dyed and waxed, I like the idea of little to any wax getting on the pad face on those I left padded, they seem to close really tight. Took the heat of the dye and wax with no probelms and no special treatment to keep wax off the pads.

[robertw]

mean1,
no laminations on mine, I'm using trhem stock. The pad losses were all on 24 hour checks until I gave up using them like that with the pads on.

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[cyaukey]

robert, were the coyotes destroying the rubbers or all catches in general?

[robertw]

Southern coons are what destroyed the rubbers on mine the worst.

[mickm]

Are they still your trap of choice, Robert?

Despite the pad problems.

Just wondering what a guy like you depends on.

[sRc]

I'm not speaking for Robert but I've noticed that he uses a variety of tools--quite a few duke and victor 3 coils and duke #4's.

[robertw]

The biggest reason I haul the Jakes is for mountain lions. The jaws are riveted in them and less likely to have a jaw popped out if a lion is caught. Never seems to work that way though.....always end up with the mtn lions where you least expect them.

The Jake while being a nice trap is just too big of a chunk of steel for me, they are bulky and heavier than what I need for everyday use.

[trappincoyotes39]

so how many do you run?

[robertw]

I have 42 of them.