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Post by lumberjack on Jun 1, 2010 13:07:26 GMT -6
Minn/Wisc
Iowa
25% $38.00 $29.00
20% $33.00 $18.42
Near a 9.00 difference in tops for coon from Iowa to Minn/Wis. A 5.00 average difference. Almost makes an Iowan wanna sneak into Minn.
How can there be such a difference for states that are very close, and close in weather and terrain?
And they didnt even want an eastern coon (mine).
Ive never seen a Minn coon, what makes them so superior?
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Post by robertw on Jun 1, 2010 13:43:52 GMT -6
According to reports from some one that was at the auction they only sold 1300 coons, less than 1%. Not knowing WHAT coons sold or even what size sold makes it VERY HARD to draw conclusions from the information posted.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jun 1, 2010 13:57:32 GMT -6
I used to trap extreme NW and NE Iowa and they had coons every bit of that found in WI or Minn, now you get in the southern 3rd of Iowa and there is a differance between those and Northern Iowa coons no doubt over the run of a season.
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Post by lumberjack on Jun 1, 2010 14:03:19 GMT -6
Yeabut.......is there really a noticeable 10.00 difference on the best ones? I guess there would have to be.
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Post by robertw on Jun 1, 2010 14:06:46 GMT -6
Lumberjack,
With NAFA (don't have any FHA information) there has developed a sizable difference in price (most that had ran in the $7 range) because of color variations in the same size, grade and section.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Jun 1, 2010 14:22:19 GMT -6
Mn/WI and Iowa are supposed to be a grade.
I dont think it has anything to do with where the fur actually comes from.
If it does dont you think that people would figure out how to ship it to a buddy in a different state and have it sold as such.
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Post by blackhammer on Jun 1, 2010 14:45:03 GMT -6
Big difference in Northern Iowa and southern Iowa coon.I'm told even a hundred miles south makes a difference.
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Post by mtcbrlatrap on Jun 2, 2010 7:49:51 GMT -6
There may be some size differences but for the most part from what I see when comparing coons even in WI say my eastern WI coons to the western WI or eastern MN coons they run similar in size but they run considerably more very straight hair, clear color with the nice black and silver color mix with much less brownish tint. With color driving the market now those are in my opinion the very preferred coons. They are good size, good grades with good color.
Bryce
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Post by lumberjack on Jun 2, 2010 8:06:53 GMT -6
Seems here in PA I get maybe 10% nice size and color, and you really get a bakers dozen with the rest.
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Post by blackhammer on Jun 2, 2010 9:26:28 GMT -6
Color is important but it's still about heavy furred larger sized coon.There are some decent colored coon in the south.The thing about color I think you see is the real bad colored coon are taking a big discount.And the super good colored coon a big bonus.The coon around me are just OK color wise but they are a preferred coon.I have had buyers tell me a hundred miles south of here the coon are not as good.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jun 2, 2010 13:11:00 GMT -6
Here is a blast of the past scan mid 80's? These where my typical colored coons in NE Iowa. skinning in my parents basement. All upland catch no water here!  |
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Post by blackhammer on Jun 2, 2010 13:16:06 GMT -6
Nice coon.I'm about 15 miles from the very NE corner of Iowa.
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Post by 17HMR on Jun 2, 2010 13:54:48 GMT -6
Nice coons and yotes but that badger is butt ugly
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jun 2, 2010 14:10:47 GMT -6
Yep too early for those badgers plus Iowa badgers not near as nice as our SD badgers come January and Febuary!!!! I catch some large/sliky and creamy ones out here.
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Post by Happy Plumber on Jun 3, 2010 20:11:11 GMT -6
In talking about coon prices from different states, it blows my mind to try to understand how a seasons catch on raccoon in Wisconsin can possibly average $12. There wasn't anyone else in the state that had those kind of averages. When I said seasons catch, that is what I meant. The Wisconsin seasons catch for every body else was $17 plus. HP
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Post by blackhammer on Jun 3, 2010 20:17:54 GMT -6
17?How do you know what EVERYONE got?Green I'd guess 12 was in the ballpark,put up in the 15 range would be close to what I hear.Auction average you better deduct commission to have a true average.
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Post by Stanley on Jun 4, 2010 6:10:10 GMT -6
Minn/Wisc Iowa Near a 9.00 difference in tops for coon from Iowa to Minn/Wis. A 5.00 average difference. Almost makes an Iowan wanna sneak into Minn. How can there be such a difference for states that are very close, and close in weather and terrain? And they didnt even want an eastern coon (mine). Ive never seen a Minn coon, what makes them so superior? I don't view this as a AREA Coon. It's a GRADE of Coon. I'm sure there are some Coon , PA,IA,OH,IN, that get GRADED Minn/WI. I've seen MN & WI Coon, can't seem to see any difference from mine. I've shipped TOP-LOT Coon. I've also caught chit coon too. Do a Higher # of Coon from the Minn/WI area make Top-Lots? I do believe so. Look at it as a GRADE, makes more sense. My Opinion. STANLEY |
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Post by thebeav2 on Jun 4, 2010 6:24:18 GMT -6
HP most If not all of groneys customers averaged way less then that.
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Post by jim on Jun 4, 2010 7:13:29 GMT -6
Stanley; Top lot awards from NAFA are handed out like candy at July parades to kids no matter where they were caught. I have six from 2001. FHA top lot certificates I believe are from the top lot of that sale, so someone with poor quality fur would never get one. Jim
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Post by trappnman on Jun 4, 2010 7:20:33 GMT -6
HP most If not all of groneys customers averaged way less then that.
that sounds like a true statement, but is it? I'd love your figures that drew you to that conclusion, because I doubt that very much, knowing a lot of locals that sell to him-
way less than $12?
$5? $7? $9
the truth, at least on SE Mn coon, is that those selling to groeny, green, averaged that $12-13 on a seasons catch of coon-
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