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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 22, 2004 16:21:12 GMT -6
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Post by bobwendt on Sept 22, 2004 18:01:53 GMT -6
that old boy or gal doesn`t look like any spring chicken either. I`m guessing a dog from the wide head.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 22, 2004 18:26:20 GMT -6
Actually a female, gave me fit's, she was tearing up some late market lambs about 2 weeks ago killed only 1 but chewed up some others pretty bad! and the woven wire you see in the back ground was nice and tight walked about 1 mile of the fence couldn't find the crawl under, until we got rain a few days back, she was passing between 2 tight clumps of sage only had 5-6" of clearance, crawling right through the sage clumps hung a snare and put in a flat set at this choke point, to the left of her is a deep canyon and then the fence and 1/2 mile the sheep! this spot is only about 30 ft wide and then off to the canyon!
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Post by bobwendt on Sept 22, 2004 18:55:16 GMT -6
old female like that I would figure to be a killer and not a chewer. She got some 3/4 grown pups around there somewhere that might be the chewers?
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 22, 2004 19:49:52 GMT -6
Nope checked her for scars none! She was a dry and I thought she would have pups too! There are 2 piranise dogs in with the sheep, I figured they run her off a few times, and didn't get the job done 100%, thats all I could come up with.
I'm just glad I got her, there was no real pattern to her entering the pasture, 2 days, then4 days and so on. I took a den and a pair out of this area back 1st part of July. He sold off the weathered lambs and the other lambs so should be good to go now.
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Post by Wackyquacker on Sept 22, 2004 22:08:12 GMT -6
There isn't much better than getting a stubborn one.
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Post by bobwendt on Sept 23, 2004 4:46:44 GMT -6
you reckon this was a third helper coyote from the den , or just an unrelated dry stray? Was she very aged , or like a 2 year old nurse coyote? Just curious if she was somehow tied into the pair and pups you removed earlier.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 23, 2004 12:49:28 GMT -6
Hard to say, she was a 2-3 year old coyote, I would think if she was playing nurse mate I would have had problems right off the bat after taking out the family unit, but this deal didn't start until August, so I would venture to say a stray dry that found out no one else was by the groceries and thought this would be a good deal for her.
Been a weird year as some you would bet where wet turned out to be dry's and visa versa, I ran about 67% bred females of the ones I killed and checked, and about 5.5 pup avg per bred female. Others have had higher % on both ends.
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Post by bobwendt on Sept 23, 2004 13:30:44 GMT -6
hmm, sometimes they just do stuff that doesn`t make sense. Maybe she lost her mate way back last spring and aborted or resobed, maybe he was sterile and then got killed, who knows. Maybe next week an old dog will show up that was with her of sorts. Might never know as generally about now the pups and parents that laid low all summer all the sudden start to show up and do the nasty, with no warning. Maybe she was an innocent mouse eater and the real culprit is still out there . Been there and done that one myself, thought o.k., everytrhing is cool now and next day, oops, another bunch of sheep hammered and fresh tracks that weren`t there yesterday!
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